How about using the German article to help out with the English one, and
refactoring/deleting anything on the talk page that talks about anything
except the article it's attached to?

From,
Emily


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Arnaud HERVE <arnaudhe...@x-mail.net>wrote:

> I just found an example which seems to me exemplary of a male dominated
> disaster :
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini
>
> In the Article page what struck me as wrong was :
>
> 1) The Sports bikini in beach volleyball photo, which has non pertinent
> erotic content imho
>
> 2) The chapter about male underwear, which seems to me so inappropriate
> AND ridiculous I can't even begin to describe it.
>
> In the Discussion page there is totally male point of view discussion
> about whether the girl in red is in good shape enough.
>
> Then there is the raging Outrage comment which I fear might become
> systematic if you leave the door opened for that. I have never seen a
> kid being shocked by going to the beach and seeing bikinis. That's a
> perverse erotic assumption imho, under the guise of high morality.
>
> I took the time to have a look at the German page :
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini
>
> 1) The first photo is semantically right, it shows better that bikinis
> are used to go the beach and swimming
>
> 2) The history chapter is better developed
>
> 3) The gallery and the drawings aptly show different kinds of bikinis
>
> 4) No ridiculous male underwear content
>
> Also, there was a beach sports photo which seemed to me much better and
> devoid of erotic content yesterday. But sadly it's been removed at the
> moment I speak. It was this one :
>
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Beach_volleyball-Huntington_Beach-California_1.jpg
>
> Ah yes and also the discussion on the German page is more competent and
> calm imho.
>
> So as a conclusion, the German bikini page represents for me a right
> state of mind and proper educational content, fit to be used in a school
> with students interested in fashion. The English page seems to me more
> influence by more or less lunatic authors, or authors less interested in
> knowledge.
>
> Arnaud
>
>
>
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