On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com>wrote:

> An article was brought to my attention about an interior designer, Kelly
> Wearstler, who is also a fashion designer. The interesting twist - she was
> Playboy of the Month in September 1994.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Wearstler
>
> One user is arguing that she's more famous as a one time Playboy centerfold
> (which she did under a pseudonym to pay her student loans), and not so much
> as a designer. I argue that (hell, just compare the Google statistics - over
> 200,000 for "Kelly Wearstler" designer  and about 27,500 for "Kelly
> Wearstler" Playboy. I know who she is, and it isn't because she is a Playboy
> model (and I'm not an uninformed person, I've "read" my fair share of
> Playboys). Anyway, they want to have a special "centerfold" infobox (or
> something of that sort) that tell her breast size, etc. Another user is
> arguing it goes against [[WP:Undue]] not balancing the article correctly.  I
> agree. No point in having a fashion designer and interior designers one time
> Playboy bunny moment overweigh the fact that she's got best selling books,
> has been a judge on a reality show on Bravo called "Top Design" and she
> sells her designs at Bergdorf Goodman.
>
> Check out the talk page, it's short, but interesting.
>
> -Sarah
>

Biographies of women who were Playboy centerfolds is one example where the
community changed the way that they are routinely handled. This change took
place after numerous discussions in various places such as the notability
guideline page, Biography of living people noticeboard, talk pages of
article, and at Afd. These discussions would make a good case study of how
that systemic bias in the community can be overcome by using the existing
Wikipedia channels for discussion.

At one point in time the community was making an article for every Playboy
centerfold with an large infobox template that included their measurements
at the time of the centerfold layout.

After loads of discussion it was decided that every centerfold model should
not automatically have an article, and every women who was a centerfold and
has an article should not necessarily have an Playmate infobox.

Recently, several existing articles were discussed at the BLP noticeboard
and the content of the articles were blanked, and a redirect was made to the
article that discussed the issue of the magazine where they were featured.

See the discussion about Tanya Beyer for an example of why this is needed.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive131#Tanya_Beyer


I've seen a discussion about Kelly Wearstler somewhere fairly recently but
can't remember where.  I see that Scott McDonald fixed the article. Scott
McDonald rewrites BLP articles to make them adhere to NPOV especially when
undue weight is an issue. So he is a good person to ask for help with
difficult case if he is active.

Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
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