I'm sure there are some people on this mailing list who also disagree as
well! We try to provide a safe haven for discussion about sensitive topics.

But, if any of us spoke up on Foundation-L we'd be risking getting torn up
by often heavily opinionated Foundation-L subscribers, and it gets really
tiring :( It is also nice to have a change in opinion - for those who
dislike the post, there are also many of that support it. Thanks for
bringing up that a different type of conversation is taking place on
Foundation-L! I've been following it.

-Sarah

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Béria Lima <[email protected]> wrote:

> ehhh, sorry for be the different, but you people are reading the thread
> about that same blog post in Foundation-l ? The opinions there seems to be
> quite different than yours.
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> On 30 September 2011 00:09, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Can I nominate Sue for the Executive Director's Barnstar? :)
>>
>> Kaldari
>>
>>
>> On 9/29/11 4:06 PM, Amory wrote:
>>
>> I normally hate +1s, but I would like to echo this.  Really exceptionally
>> well crafted, and even for people following it's a very good writeup.  Thank
>> you, Sue.
>>
>> ~A
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:36, Andreas Kolbe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Thanks for the link Sarah. It's an outstanding post by Sue, and a
>>> courageous one, too.
>>>
>>>  Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 29/9/11, Sarah Stierch <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Sarah Stierch <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [Gendergap] Sue's new blog
>>> To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> Date: Thursday, 29 September, 2011, 7:47
>>>
>>>
>>> http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/
>>>
>>>
>>> A lot of things I think about, and I'm sure a lot of other people here
>>> think about.
>>>
>>> I'm sure this blog won't be well received on other WMF-related mailing
>>> lists, but, I have to admit - for me - I feel like she's speaking for me.
>>>
>>> I don't want to be a censor, I just want people to have common sense,
>>> good judgement, customer service and logic. And when people call *me* a
>>> censor, it's just as offensive as the other names I've been called.
>>>
>>> I have beencalled a prude, bitch, agitator, bore, conservative, censor,
>>> "anti-woman"... someone with an agenda...etc. I can only thank you Sue for
>>> speaking on behalf of me - when I clumsily try to express myself on
>>> Foundation-L and fear being shot-down and having my "Wiki" self-esteem torn
>>> down.....I just feel like "giving up."
>>>
>>> Thanks. And I promise everyone, some of us are working towards this, and
>>> working towards a change and a towards a conversation that is adult, logical
>>> and respectful.
>>>
>>> <3
>>>
>>> -Sarah
>>>
>>>
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