I'm rather reluctant to speak out for the same reason. This list *needs*moderation, because it combines sex and politics, a volatile mixture.
From, Emily On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:14 PM, ChaoticFluffy <[email protected]>wrote: > All I can say is that lately, this list has been going the same way as > Foundation-l in my mind: it's becoming a place where there's no way in hell > I'm posting, because people are going to scream at me, abuse me, and attack > my every word. There are a couple people here who seem to really, really not > buy into the necessity of CIVIL, and I for one would very much like to see > some moderation to enforce civility. Disagree with people, fine. Call them > nasty names, send email after email attacking everything they say long after > the argument has been belabored to death, accuse them of lying or stupidity? > You lose me, my attention, and my respect. I think this is a reflection of > the problem on both Wikipedia and Wikipedia mailing lists: some people love > to attack, and some people love to keep beating a dead horse, and the people > who love those things inevitably drown out the saner, calm people who would > otherwise speak up as the voice of reason. I had hoped that this mailing > list could be a safe haven from that sort of thing, but it's turning into > just another place to avoid. > > -Fluff > > > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Fred Bauder <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > I know that it is not typically stringently enforced on mailing lists, >> > but >> > I think that enforcing [[WP:CIVIL]] would be a good idea on this list. >> I >> > can understand concerns over any form of moderation, but believe that >> for >> > this list the benefits far outweigh the costs. An open atmosphere where >> > everyone feels comfortable participating is necessary for this list to >> > have any purpose - and [[WP:CIVIL]] enforcement would be a good first >> > step >> > towards establishing that. >> > >> > I'm not, to be clear, suggesting the moderation of dissenting >> viewpoints. >> > I’m just suggesting that because of the nature of this list it would >> be >> > especially, extraordinarily, unusually counterproductive to allow a >> > combative or uncivil environment to take root here. >> > >> > I'm also tempted to just say that we should broadly defer to Sarah in >> > moderation. I trust her judgment, and I cannot imagine her trying to >> > censor viewpoints just because she disagrees with them. >> > >> > ---- >> > Kevin Gorman >> >> Enforcement of our civility rules on this list is inappropriate as it may >> be applied to women posters who may have grievances. Not that venting is >> appropriate. >> >> Fred >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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