Feminist issues -- in the news -- sorority assaults -- http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/10/texas-sorority-sisters-targeted-in-sexual-assaults.html?track=lat-pick
Thanx -- Migdia On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:10 PM, <gendergap-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send Gendergap mailing list submissions to > gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gendergap-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gendergap-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gendergap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Am I crazy? (Sarah Stierch) > 2. Women and Wikimedia Survey (Sarah Stierch) > 3. Re: Women and Wikimedia Survey (Aude) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:16:26 -0700 > From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Am I crazy? > To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects > <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CAKiGLfqs_OSRe9aGBpLRgu1wNiN6_feicex=R6-Er=xvtdp...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ...and one more thing - it's also the straight peoples guide to dating. > > And the majority of queer mentions go into internet dating with specific > focus on gay men (the word "lesbian" is used once, a mention of > transexuals > is there twice but the same fact in both places - and it's in conjunction > with eunuchs in India, and bi/pan/whatnot isn't listed at all). > > Homosexuality is also called an "alternative arrangement." > > Heh! > > -Sarah > who has recently become fascinated by the "gay agenda" article only to find > out there isn't a "feminist agenda" article.... > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > ....I also noticed the menu in the top right lists dating in the abuse > > section (and activities). > > > > I understand that abuse can take place during dating (and any other > > relationship at that) but does it really merit being in the abuse > section? > > Next to "child" "elderly" and "domestic?" > > > > If you're dating someone and you're abusing them I consider it domestic > > (Intimate Partner Violence, etc.)....but, I haven't sat down and read > > references about 'dating abuse' or whatever (and I probably won't right > > now..). Heck, the word "abuse" isn't even used in the dating article. > > > > If abuse is dating and I need to stop being sarcastic and wear more > bright > > colors..I suppose I've been doing all of this wrong after all...(now > wonder > > I'm single! ;-) ) > > > > Sarah > > > > > > > > > > > > On 25 October 2011 16:24, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Wow. > >>> > >>> Just...wow. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org > >wrote: > >>> > >>>> If you really want some entertainment, you should try reading the > >>>> "dating" article. It includes such mind-blowing revelations as: > >>>> > >>>> * Teenagers and tweens have been described as dating. > >>>> > >>>> * There are reports that guys are asking out girls for dates by text > >>>> messaging. > >>>> > >>>> * When young people are in school, they have a lot of access to people > >>>> their own age, and don't need tools such as online websites or dating > >>>> services. > >>>> > >>>> And of course lots of great gender stereotypes like: > >>>> > >>>> * During much of human history... women "connived to trade beauty and > >>>> sex for affluence and status". > >>>> > >>>> * Educated women in many countries including Italy and Russia and the > >>>> United States often find it difficult to have a career as well as > raise a > >>>> family; many delay finding a mate and having children and wonder if > they're > >>>> too accomplished that they won't be as appealing to men. > >>>> > >>>> It also includes lots of random advice like: > >>>> > >>>> * dating at a movie is advisable only if followed by a drink > afterwards. > >>>> > >>>> * men are attracted to 'curls', 'ribbons', 'bright colors', and women > >>>> should 'avoid sarcasm.' > >>>> > >>>> * Women can use 'pseudo-infantile motions such as the head-cock' and > >>>> gaze intensely with widened eyes and laugh often, touch, and move in > ways to > >>>> emphasize their body's roundness, such as shrugging their shoulders or > sit > >>>> hugging their knees, to mimic buttock imagery. > >>>> > >>>> I swear this stuff is in the article. I couldn't make this up! > >>>> > >>>> And to illustrate the "Dating worldwide" section, they use the > painting > >>>> "The Rape Of The Sabines: The Abduction" which shows a guy with a > sword > >>>> carrying off a scantily clad damsel in distress. I guess our editors > have > >>>> some unique ideas on dating etiquette. > >>>> > >>>> Ryan Kaldari > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 10/24/11 6:00 PM, Gillian White wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Apart from any content problems, the article had no context. It was > not > >>>> linked to what should be regarded as its parents. And that lack of > >>>> coherence, combined with its specific terminology made it largely > >>>> incomprehensible to people unfamiliar with American educational > systems, > >>>> aside from its social practices. For example, it is by no means > universal > >>>> that students live in residential colleges while attending university. > I had > >>>> a go at giving it some context so readers can go from one article to > the > >>>> next (specifically, from "courtship" to "dating" to "college dating") > but I > >>>> agree that it would be better if it was renamed, as the issues that > are > >>>> distinctive to dating in college/university could then be developed. > >>>> > >>>> Gillian > >>>> > >>>> On 25 October 2011 06:11, Sue Gardner <sgard...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yeah, personally I think the subject is notable. There has been tons > >>>>> of academic research and popular history written about the history of > >>>>> dating, college dating, the invention of the 'teenager,' etc. Even > >>>>> just within the United States. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think I did a radio series on this once -- IIRC, Beth Bailey was a > >>>>> really great source. She wrote this fascinating book: > >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.amazon.com/Front-Porch-Back-Seat-Twentieth-Century/dp/0801839351 > >>>>> . > >>>>> Susan J. Douglas was good too, as well as Stephanie Coontz and > Barbara > >>>>> Ehrenreich. They are all American, though. Lots has been written > about > >>>>> the UK too, but I'm not sure about other cultures/countries. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Sue > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> ?Sue Gardner > >>>>> Executive Director > >>>>> Wikimedia Foundation > >>>>> > >>>>> 415 839 6885 office > >>>>> 415 816 9967 cell > >>>>> > >>>>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in > >>>>> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > >>>>> > >>>>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 24 October 2011 11:16, Daniel and Elizabeth Case > >>>>> <danc...@frontiernet.net> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>>> > From: Nathan > >>>>> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:13 PM > >>>>> > To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects > >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Am I crazy? > >>>>> > > >>>>> > I question whether "college dating" deserves an article to begin > >>>>> with. > >>>>> > If it does, which the text of the article doesn't at all establish, > >>>>> > the current article has a pretty fatal case of systemic bias. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On the surface I tend to agree, but then I read the AfD: > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/College_dating > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Daniel Case > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>> > Gendergap mailing list > >>>>> > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Gendergap mailing list > >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Gendergap mailing listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps:// > lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Gendergap mailing list > >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org > > > >>> Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> > >>> and > >>> Sarah Stierch Consulting > >>> *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* > >>> ------------------------------------------------------ > >>> http://www.sarahstierch.com/ > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Gendergap mailing list > >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gendergap mailing list > >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> > > Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> > > and > > Sarah Stierch Consulting > > *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > http://www.sarahstierch.com/ > > > > > > > -- > GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> > Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American > Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> > and > Sarah Stierch Consulting > *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* > ------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.sarahstierch.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/attachments/20111025/5d46df2d/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 10:11:27 -0700 > From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Gendergap] Women and Wikimedia Survey > To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects > <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <550ea710-0f22-4093-95fe-39f2c5bc0...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi everyone, > > I have released the data from my survey, Women and Wikimedia, here: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Women_and_Wikimedia_Survey_2011 > > Please share and thanks to all who participated. I do hope people find > value in this..I know I have.... > > Sarah > > Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:10:42 -0400 > From: Aude <aude.w...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Women and Wikimedia Survey > To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects > <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <canx-rkrtuhuwgpbshkvk5xflgbhawnmdvdgg8ggqdrxdx06...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have released the data from my survey, Women and Wikimedia, here: > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Women_and_Wikimedia_Survey_2011 > > > > Sarah, > > Thank you so much for conducting the survey! It's very informative and > great > to see both some numbers along with the qualitative information. > > Cheers, > Katie > > > > > > > > Please share and thanks to all who participated. I do hope people find > > value in this..I know I have.... > > > > Sarah > > > > Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Gendergap mailing list > > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/attachments/20111025/23b9d4d4/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > End of Gendergap Digest, Vol 9, Issue 68 > **************************************** > -- Migdia & Cicero & Ulla & Tullia-Zoe & Clodia & Aurelius & Cato the Younger
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