Hi Beria, Yes, that is why I'm here as well. And I confess that right now, I do not have a grand theory of how to fix it all; but I'm glad to talk about, or work on, little ideas while the big ideas percolate.
Beria, you and I have both been here for a long time, both on the Gender Gap list and on Wikimedia projects generally. And unless I'm missing something, I don't think either of us have offered up a plan of how to explore or reduce the gender gap. I agree with you that posts like Sarah's are probably not getting to the core of the gender gap issue (and I suspect she would agree) -- but personally, I don't think they do any harm, and I do think they help people on this list find opportunities to work together and begin to develop working relationships. But..that's beside the point. How about if you and I both make an effort to suggest issues this list could take on that would be useful? I would be very interested to hear how you would like to approach things, and I could probably manage to string together my thoughts in a useful way as well. What do you think? Let's propose some alternative, or additional, directions the discussion here might take. -Pete On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Béria Lima <beria.l...@wikimedia.pt>wrote: > *I'm looking forward to hearing what Caroline would like to discuss, or >> Beria.* >> > > Well Peter, when I come here (the day the list was created) the idea was > to create a list to discuss HOW TO REDUCE GENDER GAP (in caps to make it > more clear), that was the propose and that was the one I accepted. > > So far, I saw lots of discussions about en.wiki articles and images, and > very little about the main objective of this list. I'm asking too much that > we actually start discuss what we came here to discuss? I don't think so. > _____ > *Béria Lima* > Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> > (351) 963 953 042 > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > > On 25 December 2011 19:41, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Agreed. On Christmas (or any other day), I am thankful this list helps >> move things forward in a variety of ways, for a variety of different >> people. I'm looking forward to hearing what Caroline would like to discuss, >> or Beria. But glad to know your thoughts on "pimp" and "madam" sarah, and >> to see a suggested path to improving wikipedia content. I do enjoy that >> stuff the most. Collabotative encyclopedia writing is fucking awesome, and >> I love how everybody goes about it a little differently. >> >> Pete >> On Dec 25, 2011 11:25 AM, "Ole Palnatoke Andersen" <palnat...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> ... >>> > It's a shame that my posts have been so bothersome for the list, I >>> never >>> > knew that I was only making things worse, or not helping at all. >>> >>> I, for one, do not find your posts bothersome. >>> I find no problem with having one gender-neutral article for barbers >>> and hairdressers or for pimps and madams, but I do find it better to >>> have *two* good articles on the respective subjects. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ole >>> >>> -- >>> http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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