I have to agree with Risker here. Laura, it sounds as if perhaps you want a woman-only space, but this is list for discussion by all, of any gender, who are interested in the issues. That doesn't mean we need to dump on men, any more than they should dump on women.
LadyofShalott/Aleta On 5/6/12, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Laura, I'm the one who's called you out here. I don't think it is any more > tolerable for sexism to be directed toward men as when it is directed > toward women, and I am reasonably certain that is the case with many > (present and former) subscribers to this list. There are two active > moderators for this list, one male and one female. When one moderator has > attacks directed at her, it is up to the other moderator to address them. > List moderation is list moderation, and it doesn't have a gender. If > anything, I would prefer that this list be *more heavily* moderated than > other WMF lists. > > In particular, I do not want to see people denigrated for coming up with > ideas and brainstorming on this list, which I believe is where this post > about moderation has come from. It's not acceptable, regardless of whether > it comes from a woman or a man. > > Risker/Anne > > > On 6 May 2012 18:37, Laura Hale <la...@fanhistory.com> wrote: > >> Thanks. It really makes me as a women expressing concerns about feeling >> unsafe and unable to talk about issues in terms men on the list feel >> unimportant and resolved because a man has said they do not care who >> moderates. Clearly the fact that a man has stepped up to enforce civility >> on women and other men do not care about the moderator's gender means my >> concerns are over blown. Thank you. As a woman interested in the >> gendergap, as one who feels like her voice is silenced by men, I am >> ecstatic that you have spoken up on my behalf. I will now go silently sit >> in my corner, because my voice and the voices of other women are clearly >> being tended to by men. >> >> >> On Monday, May 7, 2012, Ryan Kaldari wrote: >> >>> I don't care who is moderating, but it would be nice to have more >>> civility on this list. When I resigned as moderator, I invited several >>> people to take my place (all women). They all declined citing the >>> contentious nature of the list, except for SlimVirgin. SlimVirgin, >>> unfortunately, was not able to moderate for very long due to health >>> issues. >>> That leaves us with Sue, SarahS, and Kevin. Sue is far too busy to >>> actually >>> moderate the list and SarahS often has a COI in moderating since she is >>> frequently the target of attacks. So that leaves Kevin. Now that >>> SlimVirgin >>> has rejoined the list, perhaps she would be interested in helping to >>> moderate again? >>> >>> Ryan Kaldari _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
