"At Hackbright Academy, it's $15,000 for a 10 week program.... At Hack Reactor, where tuition costs over $17,000"
We are clearly not the target here; these scams are. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]> wrote: > Leigh, > > Thanks for this. I looked at the agency's site, without much luck -- but Ben > Kovitz did find something encouraging, in item (f) of "exempt institutions" > in the 2009 Act: http://www.bppe.ca.gov/lawsregs/index.shtml > > So, unless there are active efforts to offer courses that charge over $2500, > you're probably right -- my concern may have misplaced. > > Still, I think this sort of thing is worth keeping our eye on, for a few > reasons: > (1) Like some others in the Wikipedia world, I present a variety of things > designed to teach people about Wikipedia, ranging from one-off edit-a-thons > to event series to a full-fledged 6 week online course. These are generally > offered for free (see above), but it's worthwhile to have some awareness of > what might catch regulators' attention. I see these various kinds of events > as related - so my interest is in more than just one-off edit-a-thons. > (2) I didn't mention before why I sent to this list -- but in general, I've > found that most of my events attract more women than men. That's also the > experience of the Wikipedia Education Program (or at least it was in the > first year or so). This is meant as nothing more than anecdotal, but I think > it's worthwhile to consider increasingly formal education programs as a > viable tool for addressing the gender gap. (The article also noted the > targeted code academy programs' efforts toward gender balance.) > (3) It also might be worth considering stuff like this as an opportunity, > rather than a threat. To the extent there is regulation around teaching > computer/online skills, perhaps it's worth thinking about whether diversity > is something that should be on the radar of an agency like this, and what > might be done to encourage that. > > For anybody interested in this topic, I also posted to the Wikimedia-SFbay > email list, and there have been some worthwhile replies there as well: > * http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-sf/2014-January/thread.html > > And I first heard about it on the Sudo Room email list, where there's also > lilely to be some discussion: > * https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-January/005300.html > > -Pete > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Leigh Honeywell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I really don't see this applying to hackathons/editathons, there's not >> much "schoolish" about those. The regulators are going after the >> "learn to code in 12 weeks" style programs that are springing up. You >> can read more about what compliance entails here: >> http://www.bppe.ca.gov , but just going from their mission I don't see >> any way they'd care about *athons: >> >> "The Bureau exists to promote and protect the interests of students >> and consumers: (i) through the effective and efficient oversight of >> California's private postsecondary educational institutions, (ii) >> through the promotion of competition that rewards educational quality >> and employment outcomes, (iii) through proactively combating >> unlicensed activity, and (iv) by resolving student complaints in a >> manner that benefits both the complaining student and future >> students." >> >> -Leigh >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > -- Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey "When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left, I buy food and clothes." -- Desiderius Erasmus _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
