I've never been "suspended" (whatever that means) by anyone or anything. If
you're talking about me..? Before I'm the victim of any BLP violations ;)

I do know sometimes get Sarah (Slim Virgin) and myself confused (which I
take as a compliment :) )

I was an early moderator of this list, moderated it for quite sometime, and
left after burn out and the inability to handle my own frustrations on
mailing lists. Getting called names repeatedly doesn't help, either. I now
moderate some low traffic/low drama lists for the community. I am grateful
to everyone who moderates this list today and has in the past.

Men's rights activists are scary people. (They'd say the same about me, I'm
sure.) They have contributed to problems in my personal and professional
life for the past few years. I hate to use the phrase "victim" for my own
experiences, but, I have truly been a victim of their words, actions, and
such.  (and they would say the same thing about "us feminists")

Let's just say being a vocal active feminist in the world of Wikipedia is
not easy. I'm not legally able at this time to talk about some of the
experiences I've had, especially in recent months, that have been been
instigated by men's rights folks and active misogynists in the Wikimedia
community.

Thank you to everyone who continues to fight those fights on wiki. I
monitor a few pages now and deeply appreciate the work that you all do.

Onwards and upwards,

-Sarah


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Marie Earley <eir...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, 'permissible' was perhaps the wrong word to use, 'possible' was
> probably more appropriate, but I really do not understand this language of
> "reporting" and "going to the ANI". If I got into an argument with one of
> these men it is the last thing I would do.
>
> Posting something like the compulsory sterilization article on a website
> would get you jailed in the UK under hate speech law (example:
> http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/facebook-troll-jailed-after-targeting-901896
> ).
>
> I wouldn't take on one of these men on a talk page or anywhere else. I
> wouldn't try to sit around and have a reasonable discussion with anyone who
> mugged me either.
>
> Marie
>
> ------------------------------
> From: ltpowers_w...@rochester.rr.com
> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:38:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Moderation and the future of Gendergap-L
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Marie Earley [mailto:eir...@hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* 29 June 2014 14:07
> *To:* gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] Moderation and the future of Gendergap-L
>
>
>
> "I entered "Wikipedia" and "male rights activists" and got this
> http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/fighting-wikipedia-corruption-censorship/
> which has a comments section at the bottom with current Wikipedia members
> mentioning other Wikipedia editors by name and talk of a great conspiracy
> at work against them, if Sarah was suspended for her off-site comments then
> how is this permissible?"
>
>
>
> ----- Reply -----
>
>
>
> I don't think it's fair to assume that it's /permissible/.  Perhaps it
> just hasn't yet been brought to anyone's attention, or perhaps it's
> impossible to determine which Wikipedia editors are writing these things.
>
>
>
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>
> Powers  &8^]
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