I don't think it's at all fair to characterize the section as an attempt to rail on Eric. He just happens to have been at the center of the most recent high profile controversy about the word - which means that quoting recent defenses of the use of the word as an insult will naturally mean mostly quoting defenses of him. I've gone ahead and CC'ed Laura on this thread, since she's not on gendergap-l.
---- Kevin Gorman On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, then, that speaks more to the quality of the research if an entire > section is devoted to slagging a specific editor, and what you're > suggesting is that the research really should be interpreted as "we have > this one guy who keeps using this word, plus a rare occasional other editor > who uses it, and we're going to group all obscenities together and use it > to slag off the guy we're ticked off with". > > This isn't claimed to be journalism, it's claimed to be research, and it > needs to be held to a higher standard. The more I'm reading this, the more > I'm finding it problematic. > > Risker/Anne > > On 21 November 2014 15:59, Kevin Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Honestly, I don't see a giant problem with identifying the person in >> question by name (and also find the research rather interesting.) Eric >> hasn't indicated that he regrets using the term, and has pretty robustly >> defended using it (going as far back as at least 2012: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eric_Corbett/Statement - and he is >> very easily linked via Google to his statements and general use of the >> word. Realistically any research posted on meta will be primarily consumed >> by Wikimedians, and the current GGTF arb case is quite high profile. >> Although it's not incredibly common to name people in research without >> their explicit consent, it's quite common in journalism - I've had full >> comments of mine quoted by name in prominent media outlets going back >> years, with me often only finding out after someone pointed them out to me >> (and happening way before I did any voluntary media outreach.) >> >> ----- >> Kevin Gorman >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I also find it very interesting. >>> >>> I have, however, asked Laura to redact the identifying information of >>> one of the editors whose actions are incorporated into this >>> research. Research rarely includes publishing identifying information about >>> specific individuals, particularly without the direct permission of those >>> individuals. Regardless of what any of us think of the specific editor who >>> is named, it behooves us all to act as we would expect to be treated - and >>> I'd be pretty ticked if someone published research that included examples >>> that identified me by name. >>> >>> Risker/Anne >>> >>> On 21 November 2014 14:55, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> A very interesting study, and rather depressing. I love that I'm cited >>>> as a "radical feminist" though :) >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Netha Hussain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> I found an interesting research done by Laura Hale about >>>>> "Communicating on Wikipedia while female : A discursive analysis of the >>>>> use >>>>> of the word cunt on English Wikipedia user talk pages" on meta wiki. The >>>>> link to the research page is here: >>>>> >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Communicating_on_Wikipedia_while_female >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Netha >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Laura Hale <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:57 PM >>>>> Subject: [Wiki-research-l] Communicating on Wikipedia while female >>>>> To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> I posted some new research to meta at >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Communicating_on_Wikipedia_while_female >>>>> . It is titled: Communicating on Wikipedia while female A discursive >>>>> analysis of the use of the word cunt on English Wikipedia user talk pages. >>>>> Thought it might be of some interest to people on this list. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Laura Hale >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> twitter: purplepopple >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki-research-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Netha Hussain >>>>> Student of Medicine and Surgery >>>>> Govt. 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