I'm glad to hear you're doing this research, and look forward to the
results.

Andreas

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Amanda Menking <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
>  These are all really good and complex questions because individual
> differences, areas of work within Wikipedia, and personal experiences can
> greatly affect why an editor of any gender chooses to stay or go. From my
> research thus far, I do, however, think the predominant culture and norms
> on EN Wikipedia tend to make it more challenging for editors who are more
> “feminine” (e.g., not more female or only women).
>
>  I have done and am continuing to do some work re: these questions. See
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_and_Wikipedia/Midpoint.
>
>  Part of the challenge is that interviews (e.g., scheduling, conducting,
> transcribing, member checking, coding, analysis) are time intensive, but
> the provide much richer and deeper information than surveys. Also,
> participants tend to self-select for both. I’ve spoken with only a few
> women who don’t like the term “gender gap” and who don’t see a lack of
> women participating as a problem in and of itself. Also, I’ve found it
> difficult to recruit men to participate. I would love to interview trolls
> too, but again—no takers yet.
>
>  I’ll be publishing my final IEG report on April 1. If my participants
> grant permission, I’ll share the anonymized, redacted transcripts as well
> as the survey results and 9 months of Gendergap mailing list data my
> students and I have coded and analyzed.
>
>  An excerpt from a note (currently in press) I’ve written with Ingrid
> Erickson (Rutgers) re: early findings:
>
>   Wikipedia, perhaps the most successful large-scale, online
> collaboration in the world, is a storied space of democratic values and
> meritocracy in action—as many within the CHI and CSCW communities have
> extensively detailed [e.g.,13,18,19,22,23,24]. Yet underneath its idealized
> veneer, Wikipedia in practice proves to have a notable gender gap. Unlike
> user distribution reports on social media platforms, which trend more
> toward representative parity or even a greater number of female users [7],
> surveys of Wikipedia users indicate the overwhelming majority of
> contributors are male [14]. Both the popular media [e.g., 9,21,27] and
> scholars [e.g., 1,6,20] have begun to explore Wikipedia’s participation
> disparities, raising questions about editor recruitment and retention,
> content coverage and bias, and the tension between diversity and
> territoriality [10].
>
>  Recently, Jimmy Wales, co-founder of Wikipedia, admitted that the
> Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has “completely failed” [29] to meet its goal of
> increasing the number of female participants to 25% by 2015. In February
> 2011 in response to an article published in The New York Times [5], then
> Executive Director of WMF, Sue Gardner, asked her Deputy Director Erik
> Möller to create the Gendergap mailing list, a publicly archived listserv
> “provided by the Wikimedia Foundation as a communication tool to
> collectively address the realities of the gender gap” [28]. In September
> 2014, a male Wikipedian posted the following message to the list: “I think
> there should be a separate site for the gender gap effort […] where women
> and men interested in narrowing the gender gap and documenting the existing
> problems can exchange views in an atmosphere undisturbed by men pretending
> to be women, men opposed to narrowing the gender gap, men arguing that it's
> not really proven that the gender gap is a problem.” Even within a
> dedicated listserv, the topic of gender parity proves to be volatile. Lam
> et al.[20] confirm this social complexity, noting a “culture that may be
> resistant to female participation” [20:9].
>
>  However, Wikipedia’s gender gap is typically framed as a “woman problem”
> [8]. It has been attributed to women’s lack of discretionary time [6],
> sensitivity to conflict and criticism [6], desire to be more social [21],
> and hesitancy to learn technical skills such as the Wiki mark-up language
> [11]. In August 2014, Wikimedia Deutschland published a diversity report
> indicating that, although the picture is complex, “lack of time, technical
> usability barriers (e.g. navigation, editability), and a variety of
> sociocultural and communication issues (style of communication, working
> atmosphere) can […] definitely be identified as reasons for low female
> participation in Wikipedia” [4].
>
>
>   Despite the perception of the gender gap as a “woman problem,” women do
> actively contribute to different language Wikipedias across the world.
> Women lead local chapters, sustain sister projects, and work for and chair
> the WMF. Women who have similar edit counts to men are more likely to
> become administrators [21] and make more sizeable revisions [1] than men
> do. This note reports early findings that suggest there is something to be
> learned about the possible cause(s) and consequences of Wikipedia’s gender
> gap by looking more closely at the experiences of women actively engaged in
> the community. What are their experiences like? What challenges do they
> face? How do they persevere? We posit that many women Wikipedians engage in
> a form of ‘emotion work’ [15], also known as emotional labor, that allows
> them to maintain their participation even as the circumstances in which
> they engage prove challenging, if not caustic.
>
>
>  I’m happy to share a link to the entire note once it’s available. I’m
> also happy to collaborate with others re: future research.
>
>  Best,
> Amanda / Mssemantics
>
>   From: Andreas Kolbe <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: "'Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the
> participation of women within Wikimedia projects.'" <
> [email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:14 AM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]>,
> "'Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participation
> of women within Wikimedia projects.'" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Wikimedia-l] surveys of active female editors?
>
>   +1.
>
>  Here are some more questions that I would be interested in having
> answers to:
>
>  -- What do women who are presently editing find most demotivating about
> contributing to Wikipedia?
>
>  -- Have they ever thought of throwing in the towel, and what were the
> reasons?
>
>  -- Based on past experience, what aspect of Wikimedia/Wikipedia culture
> would be most likely to cause them to stop editing at some point in the
> future?
>
>  -- What change, if any, would they welcome most to feel good about
> contributing?
>
>  You'd need a male control group for comparative work, to establish
> whether any of the answers are gender-specific.
>
>  Crossposted to gendergap list. (Maybe someone with access to the
> research mailing list might like to crosspost this thread there as well.)
>
>  Andreas
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 12:22 AM, LB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I want to push a "Like" button on this one. How. Why. I would love to know
>> the answer to these questions. Also, for those who aren't active - why?
>>
>>
>> Lightbreather
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:14 PM, James Salsman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Are there any surveys of active female editors which have asked how
>> > they started editing?
>> >
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