I have been called rather worse than paternalistic on wiki and elsewhere:) 

The offer still stands, but rather than leave Carrite's thread as the only 
response I will take the opportunity to expand on it a little. London, for 
reasons obvious and otherwise is one of the centres of the wiki community, It 
isn't just a city of 8million, there is a much larger population who are in 
commuting distance. I am a regular at the London meetup and I'm also part time 
staff at Wikimedia UK. I know there are quite a lot of admins and other 
functionaries in or near London. I am in a position to convene and promote such 
an event, and arrange space at the chapter's office so it can be hosted for 
free at a convenient location in central London.

Wikimania is about 6 months away and will only get a subset of the audience you 
want for such a session, albeit an even bigger subset than London. So running 
an event in London would mean starting a diversity training program much more 
quickly than starting it at Wikimania, and an extra chance to get the content 
of the event right. If the London event shows that for example you aren't yet 
clear what changes you want people to make in their behaviour, then there could 
still be time to get that right.

So if someone is willing to run a training session in London then please get in 
touch on or off list. Otherwise I would be obliged if someone could give me a 
link to a page which explains what diversity training for wikipedia admins 
would involve.



Regards

Jonathan Cardy


> On 18 Jan 2015, at 21:35, J Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> i concur
> we need to be open to people, and team with them based on conduct
> this remark tends to play into the negative stereotype, which is not what we 
> are about.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Leigh Honeywell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tim, this kind ofsnippiness is inappropriate and unhelpful. I'll be 
>> unsubscribing you from the list. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, January 18, 2015, Tim Davenport <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>[Jonathan Cardy wrote:] "I have no problem arranging the room, putting 
>>> >>>up a geonotice and being an attendee."
>>> 
>>> It seems to me that Jonathan is a little unclear with Lightbreather's 
>>> concept....
>>> 
>>> You are male. You make "safe" spaces unsafe by your very existence. You are 
>>> not welcome. Go away.
>>> 
>>> Sorry, well-meaning paternalistic friend, you just don't have the right 
>>> chromosomes to play.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Davenport
>>> "Corvallis, OR"
>>> Corvallis, OR USA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> =========
>>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 22:43:52 +0000
>>> From: WereSpielChequers <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the
>>>         participation   of women within Wikimedia projects."
>>>         <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Diversity training for functionaries. In
>>>         London?
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> It would be very easy for us to host a two hour session in London on a 
>>> weekday evening at the UK offices. I am fairly sure we could get a bunch of 
>>> admins and others to attend, aside from some of the London regulars who 
>>> have agreed in principle, a geonotice would likely attract more.
>>> 
>>> I have no problem arranging the room, putting up a geonotice and being an 
>>> attendee. However I would need a volunteer to run the session. That isn't 
>>> just because I'm the wrong gender to run such an event, but at the moment I 
>>> don't know what changes in behaviour you would be hoping to train people 
>>> into.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cardy
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Leigh Honeywell
>> http://hypatia.ca
>> @hypatiadotca
>> 
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