Hi folks, Thanks for bringing this up — and for all your great suggestions!
We appreciate this is a sensitive topic and we’ll definitely keep your comments in mind for future stories about women and gender diversity. This particular story is already out and widely socialized, so it’s a bit late for copy tweaks at this stage. That said, I believe the opening lines of the story help clarify any doubts a reader might have about its contents: "To celebrate International Women’s Day we want to share some of the inspiring stories of women who contribute to Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects.” Personally, I found these stories very inspiring — and I hope they will engage many other readers as well. Be well, Fabrice > On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Isarra Yos <[email protected]> wrote: > > It was probably intended along the same lines as the 'meet the team behind X' > phrasing commonly used on corporate sites; it's just that since it is women > specifically it brings up the whole 'meet some women' thing, which has gotten > pretty ingrained these days. > > Those are all good suggestions, though. Anything that says what it is without > hitting the random weird implications would work, but that's often > surprisingly tricky. > > -I > > On 07/03/15 01:07, Katherine Casey wrote: >> Oh, I'm sure it's not at all intended! It strikes me as one of those things >> that would only be recognized as A Thing by someone who was already aware of >> "meeting women" and PUAs as A Thing (google "meet women" for a sense of what >> I mean. For bonus ick points, google " 'meet women' + PUA") . Basically it's >> a phrasing which is much more commonly used in the context of "acquainting >> oneself with women for sexual/romantic purposes" than it is in the context >> of "women are people, let's meet some people!" >> >> For other ideas: nearly any other phrasing - "Hear from some female >> wikipedians", "Find out more about some of the women who edit Wikipedia", >> "Female Wikipedians discuss why they do what they do!", "A survey of some of >> Wikipedia's female editors" - would communicate "this is a blog post about >> female wikipedians" without the sort of awkward implication of "...presented >> here for men to examine and select from, as one does when one 'meets' women" >> that's part of the cultural baggage of the phrase. >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Pine W <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I don't think that is Fabrice's intent. What edits would you suggest? >> >> Pine >> >> On Mar 6, 2015 4:46 PM, "Katherine Casey" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> I might be a little punch-drunk from all the gender drama lately, >> but..."meet some of the women who edit Wikipedia!" sounds more like an >> introduction to a speed-dating event to me than what is presumably intended >> to be a demystification/de-othering blog post. "Come meet some women" isn't >> exactly a phrase that comes without baggage, culturally speaking, and it >> makes me wince to see female editors being announced in a tone that makes >> them sound like exotic zoo animals. >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Pine W <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Forwarding to the Gendergap list in case others are interested, and >> forwarding to Jason and Peaceray in case they want to share this blog post >> at the Art and Feminism event in Portland, Oregon (Cascadia territory!) this >> weekend. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pine >> >> On Mar 6, 2015 4:24 PM, "Fabrice Florin" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Looks like the link below still had the inspire story URL in the HTML. >> >> Here is the correct link in plain text: >> >> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/06/meet-some-women-who-contribute-to-wikipedia/ >> >> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/06/meet-some-women-who-contribute-to-wikipedia/> >> >> Enjoy … and have a wonderful weekend! >> >> -f >> >> >>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Fabrice Florin <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello social media team, >>> >>> We just published a roundup of some of the women who contribute to >>> Wikipedia on the blog: >>> >>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/06/meet-some-women-who-contribute-to-wikipedia/ >>> >>> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/04/inspire-campaign-funds-gender-diversity/> >>> >>> Many thanks to Andrew, Victor, Heather, and everyone who helped write and >>> edit this post — as well as the many profiles and videos featured in it! :) >>> >>> >>> Here are proposed social media messages for this story: >>> >>> >>> Twitter (@wikimedia/@wikipedia): >>> >>> Meet some of the women who contribute to Wikipedia -- and find out why they >>> do it. (link) #genderdiversity >>> >>> >>> Facebook/Google+ >>> >>> Meet some of the women who contribute to Wikipedia: To celebrate >>> International Women’s Day, we've featured 11 different profiles and videos >>> of frequent editors and community leaders. Hear their inspiring stories and >>> find out why they keep editing. (link) >>> >>> >>> Feel free to tweak as needed. >>> >>> Thanks for helping share this story with our community! >>> >>> >>> Fabrice >>> >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> >>> Fabrice Florin >>> Movement Communications Manager >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_(WMF) >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fabrice_Florin_%28WMF%29> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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