An alternative tack is to encourage people to edit sections rather than click 
the edit button at the top of the page. Aside from often avoiding templates and 
infoboxes, a habit of editing by section will greatly reduce your risk of edit 
conflicts.

As for editing Wikipedia improving a marketable skill, I'm sure we have lots of 
editors who edit in languages other than their first language. I may have a 
skewed experience there because much of my editing is fixing typos, but I like 
to feel that one of the added benefits of my editing is that I am sometimes 
helping others improve their written English.

Of course there is a minimum competence level needed before you can try and 
write significant content in a language you are learning, so we need to be 
careful about the level of fluency we suggest people have before we encourage 
them to edit in a language.

Regards

Jonathan


> On 21 Apr 2015, at 19:32, Christine Meyer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You make some good points, Ellie.  However, it's been my experience that even 
> a basic knowledge of HTML helped me learn Wiki syntax.  I am by no means a 
> coder, although I am married to one.  Perhaps a better way to frame it is 
> that learning Wiki syntax can help you learn to code easier?
> 
> Christine
> User:Figureskatingfan
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ellie K <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I read Marie Earley's message about the Inspire campaign, and specifically 
>> about the Pinterest-related proposal.  I was interested in the Pinterest 
>> proposal too!  I use Pinterest for fun. As far as I know, I was the only one 
>> to endorse it (I am FeralOink on WP, Ellie Kesselman IRL).
>> 
>> Marie said this in her message on the GenderGap mailing list:
>>> ​"​If the pitch to women were "learn code by editing Wikipedia" then I 
>>> think there would be a greater take up...​"​
>> 
>> Yes, I agree that there would be a lot of interest from women if that were 
>> true. However, editing Wikipedia and learning to code have nothing to do 
>> with each other. Learning Wiki syntax for editing is something that can take 
>> bona fide programmers a (brief) while to learn, as it is markup with many 
>> additional Mediawiki-specific features. More to the point, Wiki syntax isn't 
>> a programming language, nor does it closely resemble HTML or CSS, which are 
>> not programming languages either. The only people who code on Wikipedia are 
>> the Wikidata folks and those who build utilities (many in Python, I think) 
>> for whatever the toolserver is called now. Most Wikipedia editors are not 
>> going to have any interaction with these few folks, nor any means to learn 
>> the skills they have.
>> 
>> I'm sorry for sounding negative, but I don't want to mislead women into 
>> thinking they will learn a job skill like programming (coding) by editing 
>> Wikipedia. There are many other things one may learn by editing Wikipedia, 
>> but they aren't so easy to articulate and vary by individual.
>> 
>> --Ellie Kesselman (FeralOink)
>> 
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