the counter-flyers are like "men's rights" it's a rhetoric of role reversal the culture of privilege does not like to be challenged it must maintain a veneer, with critique muzzled it's more small group validation, than attempt at dialogue a FUD attempt to divide and conquer changing dominate culture to be more empathetic is a long term project.
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Carol Moore dc <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for excellent comments. I should have been more specific than > saying "trashed" and said the flyers were torn down, per article: "The DAAP > edit-a-thon was not met without opposition on campus, as promotional fliers > for the event were repeatedly torn down and replaced with a satirical “Wiki > Dudes” poster featuring Martin Luther King Jr., Jesus, Albert Einstein and > Abraham Lincoln." > > The good news is that on so many fronts and issues, not just Wikipedia, > women are fighting back and that's the important thing... So overall I'm an > optimist! :-) > > > On 5/4/2015 6:10 PM, Ellie K wrote: > > 1. Thank you, Carol Moore dc, for writing an excellent response to what > (I agree) was a very silly and irritating comment at the > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/01/meet-the-inspire-grantees/ post. > > 2. Regarding the edit-a-thons, you said: > > Hmmm, looks like some guys even object to edit-a-thons, trashing their > posters on campus... > http://www.newsrecord.org/news/students-combat-gender-imbalance-online/article_fd100a5c-e13c-11e4-9d73-d3ef3275ba46.html > > Actually, the male students didn't trash the wiki women posters, but > made and posted separate "wiki dudes" posters of their own. The NewsRecord > post said that doing so didn't constitute a Title IX violation, yet. > > I find it kind of disturbing that male students would feel the need to > react that way, by making the wiki dudes posters. It is obvious that there > is less coverage of women in Wikipedia than of men, and that most notable > figures in American and European (in fact, global) arts, history and > science have been men, who have received plenty of attention and > biographical scholarship already! > > The fact that the anonymous male students went to the trouble of > creating separate posters, rather than vandalizing the existing wiki women > posters, indicates a level of forethought that is beyond mere impulse > trolling. If I were to wear my politically correct hat, I would say that > even members of the patriarchy realize and acknowledge that there is more > scholarship devoted to notable men than notable women. The truly oppressive > patriarchy would believe that that is appropriate, and go about their > business. Do the wiki dudes guys truly believe that men are being > overshadowed and under-represented on Wikipedia and elsewhere, I wonder? If > so, that demonstrates a troubling lack of awareness of reality, especially > on a college campus. > > I don't have any suggestions for remedying the situation, nor am I > condemning anyone's actions e.g. for "making men feel marginalized"; I > suspect that these men are deliberately choosing to marginalize themselves. > It is just a remarkably peculiar reaction to wiki women edit-a-thon's, and > I hope we don't see more of it. > > ~Ellie Kesselman a.k.a FeralOink > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit:https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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