The workshop will absolutely not be recorded. If we do record a future workshop, it will be done the same way as the video currently on our web site: I will repeat everyone's comments myself and the video editor will edit out all the participant comments.
-VAL On Tuesday, July 14, 2015, Carol Moore dc <[email protected]> wrote: > Another good option. People who want to speak out should not be silenced > by those who say they don't want to be taped. (And heavens forbid it be the > guys who want to harass us or their female enablers.) > > On 7/14/2015 10:02 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote: > >> Hi Carole, >> >> But if you ask people to lurk out of camera shot and not ask questions >> unless they are willing to have them taped aren't you making them second >> class participants at that event? >> >> Better in my view to create an edited taped version, and if someone >> isn't prepared to be in the final cut try to resolve their objections. >> It may be they are OK if a narrator says their words and their face is >> pixellated, or perhaps they need their bit replaced by a shot of someone >> reacting to their words and the narrator saying "a participant gave a >> personal example of harassment" >> >> >> >> On 14 July 2015 at 13:40, Carol Moore dc <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I definitely understand Risker's point, but despite my jokes about >> metaphorical "gang bang at Wikipedia", this really isn't a >> discussion of personal violence and assault, but of organized >> political intimidation. And we should feel free to speak out about >> that and make sure lots of people hear us. Otherwise we are just >> victimizing ourselves by embracing our oppression instead of >> fighting it. >> >> Having attended some such events at Wikimania 2012, and seen the >> issues discussed at least briefly in one or more taped >> presentations, off hand I don't remember any guys being really >> obnoxious. (I do remember the story of the NYC event where guys WERE >> being obnoxious, however.) Hopefully, they are NOT becoming more >> organized like the guys who disrupted the Gender Gap Task Force. >> >> Probably the best thing is to discuss whether to tap and let >> participants decide and if only a few object they can stay out of >> camera range and ask any comments they make not be taped. That is >> done at a lot of different events. >> >> On 7/13/2015 10:46 PM, Risker wrote: >> >> >> >> On 13 July 2015 at 21:37, Carol Moore dc >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> On 7/13/2015 3:50 PM, Valerie Aurora wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Several people have asked whether the Ally Skills >> Workshop will >> be an >> unpleasant experience for women attending - specifically, >> whether men >> will dominate the conversation, dismiss what women say, >> etc. We >> spend >> the first 20 minutes of the workshop setting up >> discussion rules so >> that this doesn't happen - in fact, the workshop is >> real-world >> practice in how to have a discussion in ways that give >> women an >> equal >> chance to be respectfully heard. >> >> >> Make sure you tape it and they all know it will be going up >> online? >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope not, or it will really, really change the willingness of >> participants to share their experiences and stories. In some >> cases it >> would have the effect of revictimizing the victims. >> >> I can sympathize with your wish to see how it goes, Carol - I'll >> be in a >> required session a few doors down the hall while this takes place, >> although I'd really like to participate. But from the bigger >> picture, I >> think it's better that the session not be publicly accessible. >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto: >> [email protected]> >> To manage your subscription preferences, including >> unsubscribing, please visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >> please visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- -VAL (via mobile)
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