Fae, I have been skeptical of your initial post here (it's hard for me
to see a strong basis for believing those giving the speeches have
relinquished rights), but I very strongly agree with the principle you
articulate here -- it's very important to apply consistent standards.
Readers here might enjoy a more inspiring story on the same topic: our
latest edition of the Signpost contains a nice, concise writeup by
User:Samwalton9, about how effective the collaboration in the Women's
March articles on English Wikipedia was. Highly recommended:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2017-02-06/Forum
-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]
Editor in Chief, The Signpost
On 02/08/2017 11:47 AM, Fæ wrote:
I encourage participation at the RFC I have put forward:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/videos_of_speeches
With either outcome suggested, the implementation should be consistent
for all Commons videos, regardless of source, content or the person
making a speech.
Fae
On 30 January 2017 at 16:40, Natacha Rault <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
The problem I see is that the speeches possibly deleted will in this case
concern women when we alleeady have a gender gap. I would, like Fae, advocate
to start with men speeches.
Kind regards,
Nattes à chat
Le 30 janv. 2017 à 13:14, Fæ <[email protected]> a écrit :
Advocate for what exactly? There nothing ethically wrong in ensuring
we establish precedent using an equal sample space rather than cases
chosen because they are about a Women's march in the news. The most
common interpretation of that would be advocating for fairness in
approach.
Fae
On 30 January 2017 at 12:05, JJ Marr <[email protected]> wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right and using this mailing list to advocate for
that crosses a line.
On Jan 30, 2017 05:11, "Fæ" <[email protected]> wrote:
Link:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Activist_Gloria_Steinem_Tells_Women%27s_March_Protesters_%27Put_Our_Bodies_Where_Our_Beliefs_Are%27.webm
I am concerned that amongst the many videos of talks and speeches
where people refer to their notes, it is these recent Women's march
videos that have been targeted to set an unusual precedent and are
being vigorously argued for deletion, along with some parallel
drama-mongering on Jimmy Wales' talk page. Perhaps it would be
healthier to put up an equal number of comparative videos of men
talking at WMF events, using the same arguments about prepared notes
needing to be published before the video can be considered correctly
released; or would that be too pointy?
Fae
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