I'd be happy to work with English majors and MLIS students at the University of 
Washington. I'm a former English major and teacher myself. :)

On May 11, 2017, at 7:39 PM, J Hayes 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

i would nominate sadads, he's the digital humanist
but his plate is full
maybe a small grant
for a grad student of his choosing
or roping in womeninred / women in green

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Ryan Kaldari 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J Hayes 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
maybe we should do an literature editathon?

Perhaps it's time for a Literature+Feminism editathon (to spin off from the 
Art+Feminism theme).


On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Ryan Kaldari 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
You're right Lennart! It looks like I was limiting the query to only poems 
which had the inception date set. I re-ran the queries and got:

Poems by women: 1542
Poems by men: 20072
Ratio: 1:13

Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: 162
Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: 992
Ratio: 1:6

Those numbers look a bit more reasonable :) But still plenty of room for 
improvement! Thanks for double-checking my work.

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Interesting. Thanks!


I am not saying the results are skewed, but there are lots of poems that are in 
Wikisource that lack Wikidata entries. For instance, this list of Emily 
Dickinson poems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Emily_Dickinson_poems

The first poem in her template is 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetes 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success_is_Counted_Sweetest> which has its own 
Wikidata entry: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7632593 This poem was not listed 
on the Wikidata query

poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x nor on the query poems by women on 
English Wikipedia, so all poems are not counted as they should be.

This is not to say that there is not probably a poem gap (wonderful term). Just 
that we should check the numbers before we go public with them.

Best wishes,

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Just out of curiosity, I used the Wikidata Query Service to see how many poems 
by women are in Wikidata. The answer is 5. If you do the same query for men, 
you get 255. If you restrict the queries to poems that have articles on English 
Wikipedia you get 1 and 57, i.e. according to Wikidata there is only one 
article about a poem by a woman on English Wikipedia. This probably isn't 
accurate, but it's still a surprising result. While I understand that poetry 
(and writing in general) has historically been the domain of men, does a 50 to 
1 ratio really reflect the historical reality? Anyway, just something to chew 
on.

If you want to run the queries yourself (or modify them) here they are:

Poems by women: http://tinyurl.com/kq4bq8x
Poems by men: http://tinyurl.com/m7mqynq

Poems by women with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mzj6wak
Poems by men with articles on English Wikipedia: http://tinyurl.com/mnmsnkl


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