The Java Community Process (JCP) is not a "community" process at
all. It's a way for Sun Inc. to claim they are open. You know it. I
know it. Sun knows it. Let's stop deluding ourselves shall we?

I say we move "that flaming fireball" to the home page of *Apache*. 

-- 
Ceki

At 17:10 30.01.2002 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
>I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial matter at the
>top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news and status
>page. 
>
>-Ted.
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
>Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -0000
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>jon         02/01/30 13:53:04
>
>  Modified:    docs     index.html
>               xdocs    index.xml
>  Log:
>  lets have a little fun.
>  
>  Revision  Changes    Path
>  1.52      +32 -0     jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
>  
>  Index: index.html
>  ===================================================================
>  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
>  retrieving revision 1.51
>  retrieving revision 1.52
>  diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
>  --- index.html        29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -0000      1.51
>  +++ index.html        30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -0000      1.52
>  @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
>                                                                      
><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
>         <tr><td bgcolor="#525D76">
>           <font color="#ffffff" face="arial,helvetica,sanserif">
>  +          <a name="That flaming fireball in the sky..."><strong>That
>flaming fireball in the sky...</strong></a>
>  +        </font>
>  +      </td></tr>
>  +      <tr><td>
>  +        <blockquote>
>  +                                    <p>
>  +In a recent <a
>href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview";>article</a>,
>Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
>  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
>  +</p>
>  +                                                <p>
>  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the
>  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts
>  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
>  +</p>
>  +                                                <p>
>  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing
>  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does).
>  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
>Community
>  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
>that
>  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
>  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
>  +licensing terms, feel free to contact <a
>href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> and let us know what you
>  +think. Thanks.
>  +</p>
>  +                            </blockquote>
>  +        </p>
>  +      </td></tr>
>  +      <tr><td><br/></td></tr>
>  +    </table>
>  +                                                <table border="0"
>cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
>  +      <tr><td bgcolor="#525D76">
>  +        <font color="#ffffff" face="arial,helvetica,sanserif">
>             <a name="Welcome"><strong>Welcome</strong></a>
>           </font>
>         </td></tr>
>  
>  
>  
>  1.21      +28 -0     jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
>  
>  Index: index.xml
>  ===================================================================
>  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
>  retrieving revision 1.20
>  retrieving revision 1.21
>  diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
>  --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 -0000      1.20
>  +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -0000      1.21
>  @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
>   
>   <body>
>   
>  +<section name="That flaming fireball in the sky...">
>  +<p>
>  +In a recent <a
> 
>+href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview";
>  +>article</a>, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and
>Platform
>  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
>  +</p>
>  +
>  +<p>
>  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the
>  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts
>  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
>  +</p>
>  +
>  +<p>
>  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing
>  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does).
>  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
>Community
>  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
>that
>  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
>  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
>  +licensing terms, feel free to contact <a
>  +href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> and let us know what
>you
>  +think. Thanks.
>  +</p>
>  +
>  +</section>
>  +
>   <section name="Welcome">
>   
>   <!-- ApacheCon is over.
>  


--
To unsubscribe, e-mail:   <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Reply via email to