My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can you give me a
good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect.  It just
seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.

-Andy


On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 17:53, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> Sometimes I (argh!) love Jon!
> =;o)
> 
> Paulo
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:07 PM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> > 
> > 
> > Why is that?
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:10 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial 
> > > matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it 
> > > to the news and status page. 
> > > 
> > > -Ted.
> > > 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
> > > Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -0000
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > jon         02/01/30 13:53:04
> > > 
> > >   Modified:    docs     index.html
> > >                xdocs    index.xml
> > >   Log:
> > >   lets have a little fun.
> > >   
> > >   Revision  Changes    Path
> > >   1.52      +32 -0     jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
> > >   
> > >   Index: index.html
> > >   ===================================================================
> > >   RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
> > >   retrieving revision 1.51
> > >   retrieving revision 1.52
> > >   diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
> > >   --- index.html  29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -0000      1.51
> > >   +++ index.html  30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -0000      1.52
> > >   @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
> > >                                                                       
> > > <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
> > >          <tr><td bgcolor="#525D76">
> > >            <font color="#ffffff" face="arial,helvetica,sanserif">
> > >   +          <a name="That flaming fireball in the 
> > > sky..."><strong>That
> > > flaming fireball in the sky...</strong></a>
> > >   +        </font>
> > >   +      </td></tr>
> > >   +      <tr><td>
> > >   +        <blockquote>
> > >   +                                    <p>
> > >   +In a recent <a 
> > > href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Sun
> > > Interview">article</a>,
> > > Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
> > >   +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
> > >   +</p>
> > >   +                                                <p>
> > >   +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> > > momentum over the
> > >   +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> > > source efforts
> > >   +don't impact the viability of that effort."
> > >   +</p>
> > >   +                                                <p>
> > >   +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE 
> > > licensing
> > >   +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> > > it, it does).
> > >   +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the 
> > > Java Community
> > >   +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun 
> > > to claim that
> > >   +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
> > >   +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
> > >   +licensing terms, feel free to contact <a 
> > > href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> and let us 
> > > know what you
> > >   +think. Thanks.
> > >   +</p>
> > >   +                            </blockquote>
> > >   +        </p>
> > >   +      </td></tr>
> > >   +      <tr><td><br/></td></tr>
> > >   +    </table>
> > >   +                                                <table border="0"
> > > cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
> > >   +      <tr><td bgcolor="#525D76">
> > >   +        <font color="#ffffff" face="arial,helvetica,sanserif">
> > >              <a name="Welcome"><strong>Welcome</strong></a>
> > >            </font>
> > >          </td></tr>
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   1.21      +28 -0     jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
> > >   
> > >   Index: index.xml
> > >   ===================================================================
> > >   RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
> > >   retrieving revision 1.20
> > >   retrieving revision 1.21
> > >   diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
> > >   --- index.xml   20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 -0000      1.20
> > >   +++ index.xml   30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -0000      1.21
> > >   @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
> > >    
> > >    <body>
> > >    
> > >   +<section name="That flaming fireball in the sky...">
> > >   +<p>
> > >   +In a recent <a
> > >  
> > > +href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su
> > > nInterview
> > > +"
> > >   +>article</a>, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility 
> > > and Platform
> > >   +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
> > >   +</p>
> > >   +
> > >   +<p>
> > >   +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> > > momentum over the
> > >   +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> > > source efforts
> > >   +don't impact the viability of that effort."
> > >   +</p>
> > >   +
> > >   +<p>
> > >   +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE 
> > > licensing
> > >   +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> > > it, it does).
> > >   +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the 
> > > Java Community
> > >   +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun 
> > > to claim that
> > >   +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
> > >   +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
> > >   +licensing terms, feel free to contact <a
> > >   +href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a> and let us 
> > > know what you
> > >   +think. Thanks.
> > >   +</p>
> > >   +
> > >   +</section>
> > >   +
> > >    <section name="Welcome">
> > >    
> > >    <!-- ApacheCon is over.
> > >   
> > >   
> 
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