That's awesome, I'll check that out! On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 13:11, Scott Sanders wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:58 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml] > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 19:54, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > > on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it > > > > doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want". Can > > you give me > > > > a good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that > > effect. It > > > > just seems like we should be asking for something and being > > > > specific. > > > > > > > > -Andy > > > > > > That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows > > exactly what > > > we want. > > > > > > There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes > > around here > > > that unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, > > discussions about > > > opening some of that up (including posting what we want to > > the public > > > site) are going on now. > > > > > > > For starters: > > I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same > > license as the rest of the JDK. > > > > Personally I'm having a hard time getting particularly in > > uproar as I think the central core of J2EE - Enterprise Java > > Beans is such a poor standard, that I'm not particularly > > upset that its not *free*. I should not say these things > > publicly, as I still have to work in these things, but in > > truth EJB and particularly Entity beans is a less that > > elegant kludge. > > > > In truth J2EE is kind of a scam. It claims to be aiming for > > compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors > > play too big of a role in it. They want to have lots of room > > for proprietary extensions. Its market one thing but > > actually sell another. > > > > I'd rather see someone come up with an opensource standard > > that achieves the goals of EJBs without being limited by its > > faulty design and backward compatibility with its original > > faultier design. Just my humble opinion on that. > > Check out AJB in Avalon. > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-apps-dev&m=101158982807771&w=2 > > Uses AltRMI from the Commons to achieve RMI with extending Remote or > throwing remote exception. Now you can publish any class/interface > remotely... > > Cheers, > Scott > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- www.superlinksoftware.com www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html - fix java generics!
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