Ra'id Al-Jamali wrote:
Responses...Hello Ra'id. Sorry for the delay in responding your latest email. I have sent an email with a list of documents i think we should have on Arabbix 1.0. Please examine the line and let me know what you like to do and help with.
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 03:57, Nadim Shaikli wrote:
Agreed. You want to show those contacts something, so you better have content to start with.
You're reading my mind like an open book...
I'm craving to start a local canvassing campaign: presentations and demos in various non-profit organisation forums, articles in popular media, key decision makers in various sectors we mentioned .. but I'd like to get all the defences up before the "offensive". My entry criteria are quite simple: You either get people's attention for good, or stay put wait for the right moment. First impressions are quite important; a considerable amount of our mental "filters" are based on little more than initial judgements. If it's good we become more receptive to more of that information. If it isn't up to scratch, we "mentally" block it. I have a colleague who is now convinced - based on little other than a 10 min discussion we had - that FLOSS is the right way. He anticipates the day when he's able to dual boot into Linux. Yet I hesitate.. because he needs to read and write in Arabic in all his applications.. and the reality is that what I tolerably - perhaps affectionately - label as a "feature in active development" will be nothing more than a blatant bug to him.
How about the following as concrete steps forward (more below),
1. Furnish Anmar with his list of documents that he wants included (and translated) for inclusion into Arabbix 1.0 ASAP. 2. Suggest to Anmar other content for inclusion ASAP.
Agreed, and first steps have already been made.
I've previously contacted Anmar several times off-list along exactly the same lines. I look forward to his detailed response. I will certainly attempt to get hold of the early alpha as soon as it's available to test it and to judge what we can be fine-tuned or added to it (in terms of docs, that is)
The image is availabe and ready for your download. it is beta quality . Release 0.4 I should have newer versions soon.
3. Suggest concrete/detailed content for the newbie presentations. Ossama.K, you have had content with newbies about linux and had taught/presented on the topic; could you lend a hand in terms of content and what sort of areas people gravitated towards and what they wanted to know more about.
Agreed. But I shall defer this for now.. Ossama, it looks like you have some good learning points...
You're RIGHT (I think we touched on all of this before). Now let's list out what we like to include (number of docs, outline, content, etc) and get cranking on writing them and preparing them for review.
4. Segment docs/presentations into expertise levels. a. For Newbie b. For University people i. students ii. profs/lecturers/deans c. For Governments and their agencies d. For Companies
This should take precedence...
Ok so what do we do next? Each Arabeyes project should have an expanded page which is user-oriented (read more newbie than developer).
This is more difficult esp. since we are having major commit problems from our website admin - until such a time that he snaps out of his comma :-) we'll need to shelf this idea (I'll keep it in mind - its good).
That's a pity. One of the things I was going to propose was a top-level 'high-profile' link to an Arabbix USER page throughout the site. The LiveCD is not only a project, it is a project to showcase all other projects and as such it deserves a higher place in the navigation hierarchy. By all means, the Arabbix PROJECT page should remain more or less as-is and where it is. But having an arabbix.arabeyes.org as a or www.arabeyes.org/arabbix would be more conducive to repeat visits, especially if the content was regularly updated or blogged somehow. Do we have a mechanism to for feedback/interaction like the forums of morphix, knoppix, gentoo? Ideally the LiveCD will point to these links via desktop shortcuts, links on a browser start page, etc...
I agree. We should have a more comprehensive place for our project or at least have the option.
Please start thinking of ways we can distribute the Arabbix CD and how we can do it.
Alot of what you mention is already there btw (so maybe we need to revamp how we present the data).
Some of it. There is a page for each project, but as mentioned earlier the messages need to be fine-tuned for PR leverage.
Ra'id, I will mail you a list of 9 people who have registered with Arabeyes.org with "PR" as their area of interest (off-list). Do please contact them all and see if they are interested in helping. If they are assign them a task and track 'em if you can please. I think we've done enough of "help us" begging and its time now to simply farm out the work, assign it to people and track it.
Received with thanks! I'll need to sort out all the action points we talked about first, though. Hopefully within the next few days.
We also need to finish/create the PR Guide document so I'll tag you with that as well.
6. Complete the PR HOWTO/Guide document (similar to the 'developer' and 'translator' guides) so that newbies interested in this area that are wanting to help, can pick-up and contribute without any loss or confusion. Within we ought to have our goals/mandates, plan and anything else that might be of interest to future contributors in this area.
http://cvs.arabeyes.org/viewcvs/doc/guide/
This is assuming I know DocBook..
In fact, I went through a crash course in DocBook and its extended toolchain throughout August in anticipation of such a thing! After your email it also looks like I'll need to dig into (X)HTML & CSS :)
Agreed. That was my intention anyway..
Right... Looks like I have more than a full plate and need to start getting busy..
Regards, Ra'id
hehe.. it never ends.
Anmar
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