On ØÙØØØØ 15 ÙÙÙÙÙ 2004 23:32, Mete Kural wrote: > > again wrong, the alef is not on the Waw at all, it > > is before > > it (I can give you scans if you want). > > > > Logically it cannot be on the Waw at all, it's a > > small letter using > > instead of the missing Alef, would you put the alef > > on the waw? > > If the superscript alif is shifted to the previous > letter
No, it's not shifted to the previous letter, it's between the Waw and the previous letter, exactly like the missing Alef. > than you get the sequence fatha- superscript > alif anyway. This is because all examples write > /aa/ with fatha and alif on top of the syriac rasm for > /oo/ (with waw). > That's exactly why it won't work: "you get the sequence fatha- superscript alif anyway" EVERY small Alef in the Qur'an has a fatha preceding it. > However, this assumption is not correct: the function > of the superscript alif in these cases is to indicate > thet waw should be alif, therefore the superscript > alif technically belongs to waw. > Mete, what you call an assumption is a fundamental Arabic rule. I gave you a proof that the small alef is used instead of the alef, you cannot put and Alef on a Waw, Alef is not a haraka, it's a _standalone_ letter. And even if you are correct, it's still preceded by a fatha (look at any sample and notice the haraka on the prev char) Anyway, since you are rejecting Arabic rules without justification, I won't continue like that. The same problem from another angle: Take the samle I gave later 2 "Al-Baqara" 2 ØØÙÙÙÙ ÙÙÛÙÙØÙÙÙØÙ . (The first Alef after the Thal is the proposed character 8) Note here that: 1. the first small alef is preceded by a fatha and "ØÙ" 2. the second small is preceded TOO by a fatha "ØÙ" For 1, the alef must be rendered as a regular character (similar to U+06E6) For 2, the alef must be rendered high using the existing character U+0670 See? I can list more samples where the 'fatha' indicator won't work (Actually, ALL of the Alef's in the Qur'an have a preceding fatha because this is a rule that has no exceptions) -- Mohammed Yousif Egypt _______________________________________________ General mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.arabeyes.org/mailman/listinfo/general
