On Yaum al-Arbi'a 27 Ramadan 1425 18:43, Youcef Rabah Rahal wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 16:25:24 +0100, Youcef Rabah Rahal
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-math/
>
> Forgot to say that the 8 emails are all in the 2 threads 'MathML in
> Arabic' and 'math in arabic -- w3c mathml group looking for
> contributions' (in the Nov 2004 archives of course :).

Youcef, you mentioned this in your message message:

<quote>
6- This also has already been said and I don't know if this is the
proper channel to discuss it. But it's important to note that the
Unicode statement which says that numbers in Arabic are written LTR
has to be discussed at some point. Numbers in Arabic are read _and_
written  from RTL. Even if in the few last years a new way of writing
and reading numbers has emerged (mainly due to the use of LTR software
?). It's not too late to fix that however.
</quote>

I was about to post a comment there regarding the topic but decided it's 
better not to confuse them with different opinions as much as possible.

I will discuss it here first. The issue of reading and writing numbers LTR in 
Arabic is surely correct and not something new. It's also true that you can 
read it RTL sometimes.

ÙØÙØÙ ØÙÙ ÙÙÙÙ ÙØØØ ØÙÙ ØÙÙÙØ ÙÙÙÙ ÙØØÙØÙØ 
ÙÙ ØÙÙØØØ ØÙÙ ØÙÙÙÙÙ ÙÙØ ÙØØ ÙÙ 
ØÙÙØØÙ
ÙØÙ ÙÙØ ØØÙÙ ØÙØØØØØ ÙØÙ 319 ÙÙØ ÙØØ ÙÙ ØØÙØ 
ÙØÙÙ ØÙÙ ØØÙÙ ØÙÙØØÙ ÙÙ ØØÙØ ØÙØ 
ØØÙ ØÙØØØØ ÙØÙ ÙÙØ ÙØÙ ÙÙÙ ØØØ ÙØØ ØØÙÙ ØÙÙÙ 
ØÙÙ ØÙÙÙ ØÙÙÙ ÙØÙÙ ØÙÙ ØÙÙØØÙÙÙ 
ÙÙÙ ØÙÙ ÙØØØØØÙ ØÙØØÙØØØ ÙØØØØ ØØØ ØØÙØ 
ÙØØØÙØÙ ÙØÙ ØÙÙÙ ØÙÙÙ ÙØÙÙ ØÙÙØÙØ ØÙ 
ÙØ ÙØÙÙ ÙØØÙ ÙÙØÙ ØØØÙ ØÙÙÙÙ ØÙØØ ÙÙ ÙØ 
ÙØØØÙÙ ... 

ØÙØ ÙØ ØÙÙÙ ØÙÙ ÙØ ÙØØ ÙØØØØÙØ ØØØØ ØØØ 
ÙØÙØØÙØØØØ ÙÙØÙÙØ ØØÙØ ÙÙÙ ØÙØÙÙÙ 
ØØÙØÙ ÙÙ ÙØÙØ ÙÙ ØÙØØÙÙØØØ ØÙØÙ ØØÙØØ 
ÙØÙØØØØÙØØØØ ØÙØÙ ØÙØØØÙ ØÙÙÙ ØÙØÙØÙØ 
ÙØÙØ ÙÙ ØØÙØ ØØÙØÙ ØÙÙØØÙØ ...

In short, I believe implementation-wise the Unicode has done the optimal and 
most correct solution. If you are convinced with this argument, please 
rephrase/correct your message to MathML list so that they won't get confused.


Also, note that what I am saying has nothing to do with cursor movement 
jumping to back and forth through numbers. This is the second situation where 
I found GTK+ implementation superior to Qt, I forgot the first ;)



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