On Jan 6, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:


On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:

I think the path lies in between the two views.

We're not out to kill user lists outright imo. A project becomes
viable for the Attic when it has no developer community. It may still
have user community and part of the point of having the Attic is to be
more transparent to that user community that they're on their own.
Keeping some level of resource open to them is valuable I think - in
themselves a user list provides a community that can support itself
and knowing the dev community is dead may kick them into doing
something. That may be at SourceForge, it may be in the Incubator, but it's better than the slow heat-death that projects usually go through.

However - we're not here to maintain that user community. We're fully
expecting the list to quieten down if it's not already quiet.

We need use cases to really figure this stuff out.

The only cost to keeping the user list alive is that it will still need moderators.

I have no problem volunteering to moderate a low traffic list. Sign me up.

I think it would be much easier if users could be redirected to an "attic users list" that we could moderate.

This would be similar to commons where the subject in a post is supposed to reflect the subproject.

+1

It would send a good message if we were to rename lists similar to what we use for incubating projects: [email protected]. Traffic sent to dev@ or user@ project.apache.org would be redirected to the attic mailing lists.


What would be even better is if when they post to the "dead" project's mailing list if that project name could automatically be tacked on to the subject.

+1

Craig




Ralph


Craig L Russell
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