On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 21:26, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 15 February 2018 at 20:16, jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 20:43, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 15 February 2018 at 18:31, jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 19:24, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> On 15 February 2018 at 13:11, jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 at 12:05, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Just in case it is not obvious, I am -1 to the removal of the > >> >> >> .htaccess files under old retired TLPs UNLESS another way is > found to > >> >> >> continue to redirect users. > >> >> > > >> >> > To me it was not obvious before I saw your comment on the ticket. > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Also, I feel a fundamental change such as this should be > discussed in > >> >> >> a separate thread, rather than buried deep in an another thread > about > >> >> >> project ACE. > >> >> > > >> >> > That is a very valid point, and nothing is stopping you from > opening a > >> >> > separate thread. > >> >> > >> >> Ideally the person wishing to change the status quo should do this. > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Let me try to sum up. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Henk prefers to remove the directories and the .htaccess files > >> >> > Sebb is against removal (unless it is kept in another form) > >> >> > I have no strong opinion, but have given my +1 in favour of Henk. > >> >> >4 > >> >> > I would of course prefer a solution where we have consensus, and > thus > >> >> urge > >> >> > Henk/Sebb to try and find that. > >> >> > > >> >> > Any other opinions or comments ? If not majority “wins” and the > ticket > >> >> will > >> >> > be reopened sometime next week. > >> >> > >> >> Sorry, but I don't think the vote is valid in its present form. > >> > > >> > > >> > Who speak about vote ? I did not call a vote, voting is not demanded > for > >> > technical matters, only when electing new committers/PMC and changing > >> chair > >> > (even in these cases consensus is generally accepted). > >> > > >> > Technical matters are decided by discussion and preferable consensus. > >> > > >> > iin case you feel a vote is demanded, please pass a pointer to the > >> relevant > >> > bylaw. > >> > >> I regard the proposal as akin to a code change, as it affects the > >> behaviour of various systems > >> As such, it is subject to veto: > >> > >> > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#votes-on-code-modification > > > > > > so in your mind all changes in ATTIC needs a vote, not a very open > > suggestion. > > (because everything we do affect somebody). > > That's not what I said. > > > > >> > rgds > >> > jan I > >> > > >> > ps. you jumped over the more relevant part, where I urge you and Henk > to > >> > achieve consensus. > >> > >> Fine, but this needs to be done in a separate thread. > > > > Well If you want that then start that thread....you cannot expect others > to > > do that just because you want it, consensus seeking is a two way street. > > The person seeking to make a change is the person who is responsible > for starting the thread. > I could start the thread, but I will frame it differently. > > > As I said earlier I have no strong opinions here, but I do expect all > > participants of this list to try and avoid conflicts and instead seek > > consensus....so again, you are the one with a different opinion, so > please > > help find consensus instead of telling what (others) need to do. > > Yet it's OK for you to tell me that I need to start the thread?
No that is entirely your choise, I am merely suggesting it, as a way to find consensus. Please do not forget we did have emails going in the ACE project thread, which seemed fine (at least for me), I renamed the thread based on your suggestion. I am not going to waste more energy on this theme, where all I seeked was to get consensus between Henk and you. rgds jan I > > > rgds > > jan I > > > >> > >> > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > have a nice weekend. > >> >> > rgds > >> >> > jan i > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On 14 February 2018 at 14:52, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > On 14 February 2018 at 12:55, Henk P. Penning <penn...@uu.nl> > >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:07:56 +0100 > >> >> >> >>> From: jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> >>> To: general@attic.apache.org > >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: project ACE. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 10:16, Henk P. Penning <penn...@uu.nl> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>> If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony > >> >> >> >>>> jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> +1 > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Thanks. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>> Solely out of curiosi > <https://maps.google.com/?q=%3E%3E+%3E%3E+%3E%3E%3E+Solely+out+of+curiosi&entry=gmail&source=g>ty, > do you know approx. how much space it > >> will > >> >> >> free ? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Absolutely nothing :-) These projs only have > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> /dist/XXX/.htaccess > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > If this is removed, I think it should be rep > >> < > https://maps.google.com/?q=emoved,+I+think+it+should+be+rep&entry=gmail&source=g > >laced > >> with a redirect to > >> >> >> > the archives. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I just want to unclutter /dist/ ; and consequently, for > >> instance : > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> https://checker.apache.org/ > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Surely you can check for .htaccess and ignore the folder > >> accordingly? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>> Jan i > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Thanks ; regards, > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> HPP > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > _ > >> >> >> >> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403 > _/ \_ > >> >> >> >> Faculty of Science, Utrecht University T +31 30 253 4106 / > \_/ > >> \ > >> >> >> >> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ > >> \_/ > >> >> >> >> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl > \_/ > >> >> >> > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. > >> >> > >> > -- > >> > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. > >> > > -- > > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. > -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
