On 28 April 2018 at 13:45, Jan Iversen <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 14:28, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 April 2018 at 13:06, Jan Iversen <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 13:07, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> oh, I was just trying to document, not change anything:
>>>> - the svnwcsub part is what works for years but was not well known outside
>>>> infra team
>>>> - the buildbot job *for the current build.sh* (in/repos/asf/attic/site/) 
>>>> which
>>>> is just a way to not require to do the build locally
>>>>
>>>> this does not include anything regarding future changes that are in
>>>> discussion/tests:
>>>> - Git migration
>>>> - build switch from Ant/Anakia to 3 other solutions
>>>>
>>>> do you see something that is not simple documentation in my commit?
>>>> (I don't want to add more diversity in ideas for future changes, just
>>>> document)
>>> will the buildbot is new, and adding it to our current process is a bit 
>>> premature, especially since we might end up not needing it.
>>>
>>> No need to reverse the commit, I simply wanted to point out facts, because 
>>> during the last period things seem to have their own life, and are then 
>>> seen as facts. If I were to retire a project tomorrow, I would use the old 
>>> method, without a buildbot.
>>
>> No, you cannot ignore the buildbot because it happens when you commit.
>>
>> However provided that you commit all the changes at once, you should
>> not notice a difference.
>
> then let me just say, the process (online right now) says:
>
> in xdocs/projects/ copy one of the files to the new project name (eg. 
> devicemap.xml)
> Add the new file as a link in the xdocs/stylesheets/project.xml navigation
> Run 'ant' from the root (ie: the attic/site/ directory you checked out)
> Review the generated files in docs/** in your browser
> SVN commit all changes. Remember to add both the new xdocs/ project file and 
> the new generated docs/ project file N.B. the buildbot will detect any 
> changes to the source and build/commit the outout. So it's important to 
> checkin all the changes at once. Or just checkin the source changes and let 
> buildbot do the rest.
> The new pages should go live quickly
> so according to that I have to run ant (old process) and commit both xdocs 
> and docs, and then buildbot will do something.....this is not really 
> understandable as it in reality describes 2 competing procedures.

There are two alternative procedures:
- build everything locally and check it all in in one commit
- check in the xdocs changes and let buildbot do the work

I can disable the automatic buildbot if you insist.
But I thought we had already agreed to use it.

> rgds
> jan i
>>
>>> rgds
>>> jan i
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Hervé
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site/
>>>>
>>>> Le samedi 28 avril 2018, 12:54:40 CEST Jan Iversen a écrit :
>>>>> Isn’t it a bit premature to change the process ? Seen from pow we are
>>>>> experimenting with at least 3 proposals of which 1 does not need a
>>>>> buildbot.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is of course just my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> rgds
>>>>> jan I
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 12:33, hbout...@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Author: hboutemy
>>>>>> Date: Sat Apr 28 10:33:07 2018
>>>>>> New Revision: 1830424
>>>>>>
>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1830424&view=rev
>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>> added links to Buildbot job and svnwcsub configuration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>  attic/site/xdocs/process.xml
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: attic/site/xdocs/process.xml
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site/xdocs/process.xml?rev=1830424&r1=
>>>>>> 1830423&r2=1830424&view=diff
>>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>>> ===== --- attic/site/xdocs/process.xml (original)
>>>>>> +++ attic/site/xdocs/process.xml Sat Apr 28 10:33:07 2018
>>>>>> @@ -76,8 +76,9 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <p>The following are usefull svn/https locations:
>>>>>>   <ul>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -     <li>svn site <a
>>>>>> href="http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic";>http://svn.apache.org/repos/
>>>>>> asf/attic</a></li> +     <li>svn site <a
>>>>>> href="http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic";>http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
>>>>>> /attic</a>: sources in <code>xdocs</code>, generated html in
>>>>>> <code>docs</code></li>>
>>>>>>    <li>site <a
>>>>>>    href="http://attic.apache.org";>http://attic.apache.org</a></li>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +     <li>internals: <a
>>>>>> href="https://ci.apache.org/builders/attic-site";>Buildbot job</a> to
>>>>>> build from source and commit generated html, <a
>>>>>> href="https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-puppet/blob/deployment/mod
>>>>>> ules/svnwcsub/files/svnwcsub.conf#L36">svnwcsub configuration</a> to
>>>>>> update generated html from svn to webserver</li>>
>>>>>>    <li>jira <a
>>>>>>    href="https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC";>https://issues.ap
>>>>>>    ache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC</a></li> <li>committees.xml <a
>>>>>>    href="https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/da
>>>>>>    ta/committees.xml">https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.a
>>>>>>    pache.org/data/committees.xml</a></li>>
>>>>>>   </ul>
>>>>
>>>>

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