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Shannon,
Thank you, please check my answers/questions/clarifications I replied to
John.
Bart
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shannon Roddy
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [brluglist] RedHat 7.1 mail and network help
John Hebert wrote:
Hey Bart,
We are happy to help out a new Linux user here!
I'll give you whatever answers and information I can
and ask others to help out as well.
See below for my input.
--- "Bart G. Denys" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Friends,
I have been struggling with linux for a while.
Recently I installed
RedHat 7.1 and finally got everything to work in
"standalone mode". I
want to have a functionality close to what I use to
in Windows.
Setup: Cable modem with linksys modem/router
2 window computers and 1 window laptop, connected
via Ethernet.
I have red and read and only get more confused.
Here's what I'd like to do:
1. Send mail via my ISP (now get "relaying error")
What you need to do is send your email through an
email server that you have an account on. Who is your
ISP for your cable modem?
A "relaying error" happens when you try to send email
Actually, POP is the protocol used to "get" mail, not send it.
(via POP3) through a server that is not on the same
network as you. In other words, I can send email from
home through my ISP, Eatel.net, because I am getting
an IP address from them. Hence, I am on the same
network as my ISP's network. When I try to send email
through the same mail server from my work computer,
which is on a differnet network, I get a "relaying
error".
You are correct that you have to be on the "allowed" network to send
mail through their mail server. The simplest solution is to use
"localhost" as the outgoing mail server and send mail that way. Just be
sure sendmail is running.
2. I have additionally configured kPPP. One of my
ISPs needs dial in to
retrieve mail. How do I get mail via my network and
cable modem on one
mail account and via dial up from another ?
In my experience, I've always been able to retrieve
email (via SMTP) from my ISP, even from different
networks. But, your ISP may not allow that. Can you
give us more specific information about this problem?
Typically you can retrieve your mail from anywhere. Very few ISPs
filter on the POP end of things.
3. How can I have my window computers use my
printer?
I assume your printer is connected to your Linux box.
You can install and use Samba to make your Linux box
look like an Microsoft box or even an NT network
server. Or, you could connect your printer to one of
your M$ Windows boxes as a print server and use Samba
from Linux to connect to this print server.
You are in luck, as Dustin Puryear, one of the BRLUG
members, literally "wrote the book" on this kinda
thing. Dustin, how bout some scholarly advice?
It is VERY easy to install a windows printer on linux. In 7.1 you can
just use teh "printtool" command and there is an option in there for
printing to a windows shared printer.
4. How do I get hotmail ail. I understand that this
is a different
(IMAP) protocol, but how do I proceed and with which
programs ?
Not entirely sure on this one, as I've never used
Hotmail. Any body out there have some information on
this?
If indeed it is an imap server, netscape and mozilla both support imap
mail. I am used imap to get this message just now. ;-)
Shannon
John Hebert
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank <span =
class=3DGramE>you,</span> please
check my answers/questions/clarifications I replied to =
John.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Shannon Roddy<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September =
13, 2001
9:52 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [brluglist] =
RedHat
7.1 mail and network help</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>John Hebert wrote:<br =
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<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hey Bart,<br>
<br>
We are happy to help out a new Linux user here!<br>
<br>
I'll give you whatever answers and information I can<br>
and ask others to help out as well.<br>
<br>
See below for my input.<br>
<br>
--- "Bart G. Denys" <a =
href=3D"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"><[EMAIL PROTECTED]></a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' =
type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Friends,<br>
<br>
I have been struggling with linux for a while.<br>
Recently I installed<br>
RedHat 7.1 and finally got everything to work in<br>
"standalone mode". I<br>
want to have a functionality close to what I use to<br>
in Windows.<br>
<br>
Setup: Cable modem with linksys modem/router<br>
2 window computers and 1 window laptop, connected<br>
via Ethernet.<br>
<br>
I have red and read and only get more confused.<br>
Here's what I'd like to do:<br>
<br>
1. Send mail via my ISP (now get "relaying =
error")<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><br>
What you need to do is send your email through an<br>
email server that you have an account on. Who is your<br>
ISP for your cable modem?<br>
<br>
A "relaying error" happens when you try to send =
email<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Actually, POP is the protocol used to =
"get"
mail, not send it. <br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><br>
(via POP3) through a server that is not on the same<br>
network as you. In other words, I can send email from<br>
home through my ISP, Eatel.net, because I am getting<br>
an IP address from them. Hence, I am on the same<br>
network as my ISP's network. When I try to send email<br>
through the same mail server from my work computer,<br>
which is on a differnet network, I get a "relaying<br>
error".<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>You are correct that you have to be on the
"allowed" network to send mail through their mail server. =
The
simplest solution is to use "localhost" as the outgoing mail =
server
and send mail that way. Just be sure sendmail is running.<br
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' =
type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>2. I have additionally configured kPPP. One =
of my<br>
ISPs needs dial in to<br>
retrieve mail. How do I get mail via my network and<br>
cable modem on one<br>
mail account and via dial up from another =
?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><br>
In my experience, I've always been able to retrieve<br>
email (via SMTP) from my ISP, even from different<br>
networks. But, your ISP may not allow that. Can you<br>
give us more specific information about this =
problem?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Typically you can retrieve your mail from =
anywhere.
Very few ISPs filter on the POP end of things.<br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:
line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' =
type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>3. How can I have my window computers use my =
<br>
printer?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><br>
I assume your printer is connected to your Linux box.<br>
You can install and use Samba to make your Linux box<br>
look like an Microsoft box or even an NT network<br>
server. Or, you could connect your printer to one of<br>
your M$ Windows boxes as a print server and use Samba<br>
from Linux to connect to this print server.<br>
<br>
You are in luck, as Dustin Puryear, one of the BRLUG<br>
members, literally "wrote the book" on this kinda<br>
thing. Dustin, how bout some scholarly =
advice?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It is VERY easy to install a windows printer =
on linux.
In 7.1 you can just use teh "printtool" command and =
there is an
option in there for printing to a windows shared printer.<br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:
line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' =
type=3Dcite><pre
style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>4. How do I get hotmail ail. I understand =
that this<br>
is a different<br>
(IMAP) protocol, but how do I proceed and with which<br>
programs ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre style=3D'margin-left:.5in' wrap=3D""><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><br>
Not entirely sure on this one, as I've never used<br>
Hotmail. Any body out there have some information on<br>
this?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>If indeed it is an imap server, netscape and =
mozilla
both support imap mail. I am used imap to get this message just =
now. ;-)<br>
<br>
Shannon<br style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><br =
style=3D'mso-special-character:line-break'>
<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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