Jerald Sheets wrote: <em>> I've long been a proponent of certain levels of machine for certain <em>> levels of users, but Dustin... <em>> <em>> Think about what you just said. Ok, fine. It's the Vendor's job. <em>> Remember the exploits on a default RedHat 6.2 distro? Is it then the <em>> vendor's responsibility to get the customer's machine back and install <em>> the patches? What home user will have an admin? DO I see a new market <em>> here <g>? <p>I never said that. I said that "Vendors and administrators have the responsibilty of properly configuring and maintaining systems." Now, who has what role depends on how the vendor and business works together. At the most extreme this involves managed services from the vendor. However, in most situations the duties for the vendor will stop at properly configuring the system, while maintenance is left to the administrator. This basically involves the vendor shipping most products with services turned off and requiring administrators to turn required services on. This is almost how it works now except that most vendors don't properly configure the default system setup. <p><em>> Plain and simple (since we're talking about windows), Microsoft is still <em>> attempting to take over the market. As soon as everyone gets the inkling <p>So? I say go for it. <p><em>> they'll ahve to put all their personal stuff in someone elses hands, <em>> there's gonna ba some serious abitc#in'. We'll see our ranks swell some, <em>> as well as the M$ ranks diminish a bit. However, with an OS like Linux <em>> (or UNIX in general), how is your suggestion anywhere near practical? I <em>> mean, hell...people found exploits in seemingly innocuous programs such <em>> as Pine and Tin. THe second we think everything's patched, <em>> securityfocus.com comes up with something else some 12 year old found at <em>> 2AM yesterday. <p>I definately think now that you misunderstood my original comment. Refer to my reply above. :) <em>> Your suggestion is utopian, and we should all strive for it. It's just <em>> not practical. <p>Hey, I'm just a utopian kinda guy. Regards, Dustin <p><p><em>> <em>> Jerald Sheets, Systems Analyst TIS <em>> Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center <em>> 5000 Hennessy Blvd, Baton Rouge, LA 70808 <em>> Ph.225.765.8734..Fax.225.765.8784 <em>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <em>> <p> -- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear In the beginning the Universe was created. This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams ================================================ BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change your subscription information. ================================================
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