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There are FCC issues even without adding external amplifiers. Increasing
the gain increases the total power output off the radio, and anything
over 1 watt is prohibited. That's not to say that you can't get away
with it, but it's not something that you can sell, or even safely
recommend to someone. The FCC also limits configurations of the pre-made
stuff too. You can't go putting the highest amplifier on the highest
gain antennas and be legal. This is also why you'll notice that one
vendor's radios don't work with another's connectors, every
configuration has to be pre-certified before they're allowed to sell it.

-Tim


On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 14:54, Kris A. Wotipka wrote:


    We have a couple of WAP 11's over here in Abbeville......  we played around 
    with them and on the tests got 300' from an indoor location to an outdoor 
    location. When it came down to the day of the event, we were lucky for 30' 
    line of sight.
    
    We have learned alot since then and have been looking at alternate designs 
    including (pringles can project, high gain omni's, and recycled Primestar 
    dishes).  However, we have too many trees and too few tall buildings to 
    really test it out down here.
    
    I build a omni and w/o a accurate way to test it, all I can say is that it 
    does a bit better than the factory antennas.  
    
    There are also other ways (amps, etc) but most involve FCC issues and 
    $$$$..........  we are looking for the most bang for the buck here.
    
    We are currently looking at maps and sat photos for a 1/2 mile hop here in 
    town.  We'll keep you posted if it works
    
    kw
    
    
    
    
    On Tuesday 18 December 2001 14:18, you wrote:
    > Theoretically, and with the right equipment ($), over 20 miles is
    > attainable.
    >
    > -Tim
    >
    >
    > On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 13:57, Dustin Puryear wrote:
    >
    >
    >     What is the range on that anyway?
    >
    >     ---
    >     Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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    >     http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
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    >     > -----Original Message-----
    >     > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    >     > Behalf Of Kris A. Wotipka
    >     > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:43 PM
    >     > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    >     > Subject: Re: [brluglist] Diagnostics
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > Since it is made for a smaller format the ISO is pretty small
    >     > (around 30 MB
    >     > Adam will know this better).  It may not be that painful of a
    >     > down load for
    >     > the 56K guys.
    >     >
    >     > Is anyone in BR playing around with 802.11 (wireless networking) 
over
    >     > any distance?  We have tooled around a bit with it here in Abbeville
    >     > and would
    >     > like to get more people interested in some alternative homemade
    >     > antennas.
    >     > Might help the 56K guys out......
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > kw
    >     >
    >     >
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<BODY>There are FCC issues even without adding external amplifiers. Increasing 
the gain increases the total power output off the radio, and anything over 1 
watt is prohibited. That's not to say that you can't get away with it, but it's 
not something that you can sell, or even safely recommend to someone. The FCC 
also limits configurations of the pre-made stuff too. You can't go putting the 
highest amplifier on the highest gain antennas and be legal. This is also why 
you'll notice that one vendor's radios don't work with another's connectors, 
every configuration has to be pre-certified before they're allowed to sell it. 
<br>
<br>
-Tim<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 14:54, Kris A. Wotipka wrote:
<blockquote>
<pre><FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>We have a couple of WAP 11's over 
here in Abbeville......  we played around </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>with them and on the tests got 300' 
from an indoor location to an outdoor </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>location. When it came down to the day 
of the event, we were lucky for 30' </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>line of sight.</FONT></I></FONT 
SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>We have learned alot since then and 
have been looking at alternate designs </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>including (pringles can project, high 
gain omni's, and recycled Primestar </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>dishes).  However, we have too many 
trees and too few tall buildings to </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>really test it out down 
here.</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>I build a omni and w/o a accurate way 
to test it, all I can say is that it </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>does a bit better than the factory 
antennas.  </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>There are also other ways (amps, etc) 
but most involve FCC issues and </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>$$$$..........  we are looking for the 
most bang for the buck here.</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>We are currently looking at maps and 
sat photos for a 1/2 mile hop here in </FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>town.  We'll keep you posted if it 
works</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>kw</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>On Tuesday 18 December 2001 14:18, you 
wrote:</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; Theoretically, and with the right 
equipment ($), over 20 miles is</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; attainable.</FONT></I></FONT 
SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; -Tim</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt; On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 13:57, 
Dustin Puryear wrote:</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     What is the range on that 
anyway?</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     ---</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     Dustin Puryear &lt;[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     Information Systems 
Consultant</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     
http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     In the beginning the Universe 
was created.</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     This has been widely regarded 
as a bad move. - Douglas Adams</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; -----Original 
Message-----</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; Behalf Of Kris A. 
Wotipka</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; Sent: Tuesday, December 
18, 2001 1:43 PM</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; To: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; Subject: Re: [brluglist] 
Diagnostics</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; Since it is made for a 
smaller format the ISO is pretty small</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; (around 30 
MB</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; Adam will know this 
better).  It may not be that painful of a</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; down load 
for</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; the 56K 
guys.</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; Is anyone in BR playing 
around with 802.11 (wireless networking) over</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; any distance?  We have 
tooled around a bit with it here in Abbeville</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; and 
would</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; like to get more people 
interested in some alternative homemade</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; 
antennas.</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; Might help the 56K guys 
out......</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt;</FONT></I></FONT SIZE="3">
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>&gt;     &gt; kw</FONT></I></FONT 
SIZE="3">
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