Then you should take a look at Gentoo Linux: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/portage-user.html, which uses the ports tree idea in a new Linux distro.
John Hebert > -----Original Message----- > From: Dustin Puryear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [brluglist] Re: software package management was RE: Ximian - > Was Re: [brluglist] Baldur's Gate > > > At 10:56 AM 1/23/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >This is all good feedback concerning Red Carpet. I hadn't > used Red Carpet > >much yet, so this is helpful. I've used Debian's apt-get and > dselect much > >more and like it alot. > > I would like to see something to FreeBSD's ports. Now that is > damn nifty. > > Regards, Dustin > > > > >Translation for newbies: We are discussing apps that can > make upgrading > >software on your computers easier. Roughly speaking, these > apps detect the > >software you have on your computer, then connect over the > Internet to a > >remote server and downloads any upgrades to your installed > software. You are > >then prompted to install the upgrades, unless you specify > differently. This > >operation can even be made automatic and run every night! An > analogy would > >be Microsoft's Windows Update, but without the backdoor > NSAkey access. :) > > > >John Hebert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Douglas Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:27 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Ximian - Was Re: [brluglist] Baldur's Gate > > > > > > > > > Yeah, red carpet is pretty nice, but I prefer Suse's yast2 online > > > update. Yast2 was a nice icon on my screen, plus it was in > > > my path, so > > > I could just type in yast2 in the terminal. Now with > ximian, the icon > > > is gone, and it's not in my path anymore. It's not a > > > problem, I'm a big > > > boy and I just put yast2 in my path again. Plus red carpet > > > wanted me to > > > install drivers for my video card that were a whole 6 months > > > older than > > > the ones I already have. And it detected my proper drivers, > > > I guess it > > > just thought the older ones were better or more stable, but I > > > like mine > > > just like they are. > > > > > > My opinion, would be that Red Carpet would be great for a > > > newbie, if of > > > course they used it from day one. > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-01-23 at 10:29, john beamon wrote: > > > > There's only one problem I've had with Red Carpet. Well, > > > maybe two. I've > > > > seen it "recommend" a list of packages including > Courier, Tux, and > > > > OpenSSH, when my machine already had working installations > > > of Sendmail, > > > > apache, and SSH. The absence of a product in the catalog > > > is not a reason > > > > to install it when the user selects "update me". > > > > > > > > Second, I got out of the RPM update routine for a few > > > months, and it bit > > > > me in the buttocks like a big, hairy dog. When you build > > > your openssh > > > > from source, including openssl, it largely accepts the > versions of > > > > whatever adequate libs and dependencies you've got and does > > > the job. If > > > > you come back later and try to upgrade your glibc.... This > > > version of > > > > glibc required for <list of apps>. Upgrade of <apps> fails > > > because all > > > > the new ones require upgraded glibc, and all the new > > > versions use ssl, and > > > > a specific version of ssl that you do not have installed. > > > Never mind that > > > > I ssh and tunnel in and out of my net all day, I can't > upgrade PINE > > > > becuase it says I don't have good enough openssl! > > > > > > > > I guess if you start from a fairly new cd and use Red > > > Carpet from day one > > > > to update you on a weekly basis, it's just fantastic. I've > > > used it that > > > > way once or twice before. Heaven help you if you fall > > > behind... That > > > > product-2.0.9.5b-dependences in every single rpm is the one > > > pitfall I have > > > > with that whole system. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -j > > > > > > > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, John Hebert wrote: > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:46:54 -0600 > > > > > From: John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: RE: Ximian - Was Re: [brluglist] Baldur's Gate > > > > > > > > > > Agree with Shannon: Gnome is really nice and looking > > > forward to what comes > > > > > next from Ximian. The Red Carpet software update app is > > > cool and definitely > > > > > an app category we will see more of. Haven't played with > > > Ximian Evolution > > > > > yet, though I know that is a nice app from hearsay from many. > > > > > > > > > > BTW: I just updated the BRLUG CD Library with the 7 CD > > > Ximian collection > > > > > donated by Choppy Cusachs. It includes: > > > > > Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (Potato) for x86 > > > > > Linux Mandrake 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0 > > > > > LinuxPPC 2000 > > > > > Red Hat Linux 6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2 for x86 > > > > > Solaris 7, 8 for UltraSPARC > > > > > SuSE 6.4, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2 for x86 > > > > > Turbolinux 6.0 > > > > > Yellow Dog Linux 1.2, 2.0 > > > > > as well as the various Ximian apps, Star Office, and many > > > others. So, it's a > > > > > good way to check out various distros quickly. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any Linux/UNIX/*BSD related CDs of Free|Open > > > Source software > > > > > that you don't need anymore, please donate them to the > > > BRLUG CD Library. I'm > > > > > the interim CD librarian until somebody else wants to do > > > it. There are a few > > > > > distros already in the CD library, so don't grow old > > > waiting to download the > > > > > CDs, check em out of our library. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > John Hebert > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Shannon Roddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:04 PM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Ximian - Was Re: [brluglist] Baldur's Gate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just wait till 2.0 comes out. Mostly cosmetic > changes, but I > > > > > > am looking > > > > > > forward to the improved anti-aliasing of the fonts, > > > etc. Ximian is > > > > > > GREAT - just takes a relatively recent machine to run it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shannon > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 16:57, Douglas Adams wrote: > > > > > > > I've got it on DVD, which works fine with the original > > > > > > installation from > > > > > > > cd as far as I know. I could bring it to the > next meeting > > > > > > if no one > > > > > > > else has it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In other news, I'm using Ximian Desktop right > now, and it's > > > > > > pretty damn > > > > > > > sweet. I'm not ready to leave KDE behind, but I will give > > > > > > gnome it's > > > > > > > dues now, thanks to the monkey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-01-22 at 17:03, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone have the original Baldur's Gate? I gave my > > > > > > copy to a friend but > > > > > > > > CD 4 is scratched and so he can't finish the game! Can I > > > > > > get a copy or > > > > > > > > borrow the original for a few days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Information Systems Consultant > > > > > > > > http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear > > > > > > > > In the beginning the Universe was created. > > > > > > > > This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - > Douglas Adams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > "Be true to yourself and you will never fall" - > Beastie Boys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Shannon Roddy California Institute of > > > Technology > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observatory > > > > > > ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane > > > > > > fx: (225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754 > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > > your subscription information. > > > > ================================================ > > > -- > > > "Be true to yourself and you will never fall" - Beastie Boys > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > > > your subscription information. > > > ================================================ > > > > >================================================ > >BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > >Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > >Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > >your subscription information. > >================================================ > > --- > Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Information Systems Consultant > http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear > In the beginning the Universe was created. > This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams > > ================================================ > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change > your subscription information. > ================================================ > ================================================ BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. 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