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You need WINS. You can enable wins resolution on your Samba server and
set your client computers to use the Samba server as the WINS server.
That can be done in DHCP, but I don't know if your router's dhcp server
supports that.
Now, for a slightly longer explanation:
There are two concepts here, WINS and DNS. DNS resolves host names to IP
addresses (and vice versa), whereas WINS resolves windows _machine
names_ to IP addresses. This separation sometimes makes it difficult to
figure out what's going on in windows networking. Now, unlike DNS,
windows name to IP address _can_ happen on its own with the windows
browser service, but it's a hit-and-miss type of operation where
machines sit around for a period, then do broadcasts to elect browse
masters. It's a really nasty process. WINS fixes that by centralizing
the whole activity. If you want your Linux machine to "see" the other
computers on the network, and your Windows computers to "see" the Linux,
you'll need samba running on the Linux box. There is no "Network
Neighborhood" without SMB.
As far as getting hostnames to resolve to IP addresses, you'll either
need to set up a local DNS server or edit the hosts files on each
machine. Depending on the size of your network, you need to decide that
yourself. The DNS route is a bit more complicated. To answer your
question about a DNS "proxy," you need more than a proxy, you need a
full-blown DNS content server if you want to accomplish what you asked.
-Tim
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 20:25, Terry Stockdale wrote:
At 08:51 PM 1/31/02 -0600, I wrote:
>I'm trying to switch my in-home network from static IP addresses to
>dynamic. But having consistency problems between Win98 and Linux (RH7.2)
>machines.
>
>1) I'm using a Linksys cable/dsl router to assign IP addresses via
>DHCP. I took all machines out of the respective "hosts" files except for
>localhost and the 192.168.1.1 router/gateway.
>2) My win98 machines are set to "obtain an IP address automatically" --
>and they do
>3) The win98 machines can find each other by name using ping. They also
>can via "network neighborhood" but I realize that this is via SMB
>4) My win98 machines can not find my Linux webserver (in-home only)
>5) Linux machines are also getting its IP address dynamically. In this
>case, using dhcpcd
>5) My linux machines can not find my windows machines by name, either
>6) My linux machines can ping ftp.cdrom.com and get successful responses.
>7) I am not running Samba on the either Linux machine
>
>What am I doing wrong?
I appreciate all the talk about Linksys support being not the best, Cat5
and other wiring problems, and Zoom modem horror stories.
However, does anyone have a clue what's wrong in my setup? Do I have to
run a DNS proxy inhouse to get my local network of dynamic IP addresses to
talk to each other by name? Is it a Windows vs Linksys issue, SAMBA
needed, DNS proxy needed, go back to static IP's on the Linux machines
(despite the Linksys getting its DNS via DHCP)?
Any ideas?
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You need WINS. You can enable wins resolution on your Samba server and set your
client computers to use the Samba server as the WINS server. That can be done
in DHCP, but I don't know if your router's dhcp server supports that.
<BR>
<BR>
Now, for a slightly longer explanation:
<BR>
There are two concepts here, WINS and DNS. DNS resolves host names to IP
addresses (and vice versa), whereas WINS resolves windows _machine names_ to IP
addresses. This separation sometimes makes it difficult to figure out what's
going on in windows networking. Now, unlike DNS, windows name to IP address
_can_ happen on its own with the windows browser service, but it's a
hit-and-miss type of operation where machines sit around for a period, then do
broadcasts to elect browse masters. It's a really nasty process. WINS fixes
that by centralizing the whole activity. If you want your Linux machine to
"see" the other computers on the network, and your Windows computers
to "see" the Linux, you'll need samba running on the Linux box. There
is no "Network Neighborhood" without SMB.
<BR>
<BR>
As far as getting hostnames to resolve to IP addresses, you'll either need to
set up a local DNS server or edit the hosts files on each machine. Depending on
the size of your network, you need to decide that yourself. The DNS route is a
bit more complicated. To answer your question about a DNS "proxy,"
you need more than a proxy, you need a full-blown DNS content server if you
want to accomplish what you asked.
<BR>
<BR>
-Tim
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 20:25, Terry Stockdale wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>At 08:51 PM 1/31/02 -0600, I
wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>I'm trying to switch my in-home
network from static IP addresses to </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>dynamic. But having consistency
problems between Win98 and Linux (RH7.2) </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>machines.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>1) I'm using a Linksys cable/dsl
router to assign IP addresses via </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>DHCP. I took all machines out of
the respective "hosts" files except for </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>localhost and the 192.168.1.1
router/gateway.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>2) My win98 machines are set to
"obtain an IP address automatically" -- </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>and they do</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>3) The win98 machines can find
each other by name using ping. They also </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>can via "network
neighborhood" but I realize that this is via SMB</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>4) My win98 machines can not find
my Linux webserver (in-home only)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>5) Linux machines are also getting
its IP address dynamically. In this </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>case, using dhcpcd</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>5) My linux machines can not find
my windows machines by name, either</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>6) My linux machines can ping
ftp.cdrom.com and get successful responses.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>7) I am not running Samba on the
either Linux machine</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>>What am I doing
wrong?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>I appreciate all the talk about Linksys
support being not the best, Cat5 </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>and other wiring problems, and Zoom
modem horror stories.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>However, does anyone have a clue what's
wrong in my setup? Do I have to </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>run a DNS proxy inhouse to get my local
network of dynamic IP addresses to </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>talk to each other by name? Is it a
Windows vs Linksys issue, SAMBA </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>needed, DNS proxy needed, go back to
static IP's on the Linux machines </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>(despite the Linksys getting its DNS
via DHCP)?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Any ideas?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>--</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Terry Stockdale -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Baton Rouge, LA</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>website: http://www.dadstoy.net
</FONT></FONT></I>
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