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Here's a chart from the system requirements for the NetMax VPN Server
and Gateway. This is a linux system that uses a ported from BSD IPSec
stack. From looking at this list, it generally takes a beefy machine to
handle lots of througput. I'd guess that 100mbits would require a higher
end Athlon or P4 with lots of RAM. Dual processors may help, but only if
IPSec can be multi-threaded. Considering the speed that even a low end
Linux machine can route raw (non-VPN) packets, I'd say that a factor of
20 sounds about right. Latency is a function of the time it takes to
encrypt/decrypt the packets, so CPU speed is definitely crucial here. As
much memory as you can throw at it won't hurt either.=20
3DES Encryption Throughput:
* Intel=AE Pentium=AE 166 MHz, 64MB RAM (4.8 Mbps)
* Intel Celeron=AE 433 MHz, 164 MB SDRAM (15 Mbps)
* Intel Pentium=AE III 550, 196 MB SDRAM (18 Mbps)
* AMD Athlon=AE 800, 128 MB SDRAM (30 Mbps)=20
-Tim
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 11:15, Shannon Roddy wrote:
What kind of bandwidth are you running through it? I am doing my
testing on a full 100mbit LAN and I am getting reduced to around 4-8
mbit depending on the configuration.
=20
Shannon
=20
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 10:36, Scott Harney wrote:
> An old Packard Bell P75 with 40M RAM
>=20
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 02:10:00PM -0500, Shannon Roddy wrote:
> > What sort of software/hardware are you using? I will definitely ne=
ed to
> > improve the performance issues.
> >=20
> > Shannon
> >=20
> >=20
> > On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 12:46, Scott Harney wrote:
> > > I can't say that I have the same issue. I have an OpenBSD IPSEc V=
PN. two
> > > actually. one for outside connections in and one for my wireless =
LAN.
> > > I haven't experienced that kind of performance hit.
> > >=20
> > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 01:00:35PM -0500, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > > > At 12:06 PM 6/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >I am using the built in stuff that is in OpenBSD (IPSec) with =
manual
> > > > >3des keys.
> > > >=20
> > > > I haven't messed with the OpenBSD IPSec implementation. A facto=
r of 20,=20
> > > > huh? That's kind of brutal, but to be honest, I have yet to toy=
with an=20
> > > > IPSec-based VPN myself. Is that performance expected?
> > > >=20
> > > > Regards, Dustin
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > >Shannon
> > > > >
> > > > >On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 09:16, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > > > > > What software are you using for the actual VPN?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards, Dustin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 08:45 PM 6/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Just in case anyone was wondering, I did some throughput t=
esting on a
> > > > > > >test VPN I have here. It is pretty CPU intensive as far a=
s I can tell.
> > > > > > >The VPN was running on two OpenBSD boxes with ~400 mhz cpu=
s. See the
> > > > > > >details and gnuplots at:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~sroddy/netpipetests/netpip=
e_tests.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >About a factor of 20 reduction in speed when going from
> > > > > > >client->gateway->(encrypted)=3D>gateway=3D>(decrypted)->cl=
ient.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I am going to do some further testing on faster machines. =
I am also
> > > > > > >going to try blowfish vs. 3des encryption. Blowfish seems=
to be faster
> > > > > > >than 3des on ssh.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >Shannon Roddy
> > > > > > >__________________________________________________________=
________
> > > > > > >Systems Administrator California Institute of Te=
chnology
> > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observator=
y
> > > > > > >ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane
> > > > > > >fx: (225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754
> > > > > > >Web Page http://www.ligo-la.caltech=
.edu/~sroddy
> > > > > > >Calendar/Schedule See Home Page
> > > > > > >Wireless Email (255 Chars) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ar.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >_______________________________________________
> > > > > > >General mailing list
> > > > > > >[email protected]
> > > > > > >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > UNIX and Network Consultant
> > > > > > http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
> > > > > > PGP Key available at http://www.us.pgp.net
> > > > > > In the beginning the Universe was created.
> > > > > > This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adam=
s
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > General mailing list
> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
> > > > >--
> > > > >Shannon Roddy
> > > > >______________________________________________________________=
____
> > > > >Systems Administrator California Institute of Techno=
logy
> > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observatory
> > > > >ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane
> > > > >fx: (225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754
> > > > >Web Page http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu=
/~sroddy
> > > > >Calendar/Schedule See Home Page
> > > > >Wireless Email (255 Chars) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
om
> > > > >
> > > > >_______________________________________________
> > > > >General mailing list
> > > > >[email protected]
> > > > >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > ---
> > > > Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > UNIX and Network Consultant
> > > > http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
> > > > PGP Key available at http://www.us.pgp.net
> > > > In the beginning the Universe was created.
> > > > This has been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > General mailing list
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > Scott Harney<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >=20
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > General mailing list
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
> > --=20
> > Shannon Roddy
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > Systems Administrator California Institute of Technology
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observatory
> > ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane
> > fx: (225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754
> > Web Page http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~sroddy
> > Calendar/Schedule See Home Page
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> > _______________________________________________
> > General mailing list
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> > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
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> --=20
> Scott Harney<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Shannon Roddy
__________________________________________________________________
Systems Administrator California Institute of Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observatory
ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane
fx: (225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754
Web Page http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~sroddy
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Here's a chart from the system requirements for the NetMax VPN Server and
Gateway. This is a linux system that uses a ported from BSD IPSec stack. From
looking at this list, it generally takes a beefy machine to handle lots of
througput. I'd guess that 100mbits would require a higher end Athlon or P4 with
lots of RAM. Dual processors may help, but only if IPSec can be multi-threaded.
Considering the speed that even a low end Linux machine can route raw (non-VPN)
packets, I'd say that a factor of 20 sounds about right. Latency is a function
of the time it takes to encrypt/decrypt the packets, so CPU speed is definitely
crucial here. As much memory as you can throw at it won't hurt either.
<BR>
<BR>
3DES Encryption Throughput:
<BR>
<BR>
* Intel® Pentium® 166 MHz, 64MB
RAM (4.8 Mbps)
<BR>
* Intel Celeron® 433 MHz, 164 MB SDRAM (15 Mbps)
<BR>
* Intel Pentium® III 550, 196 MB SDRAM (18
Mbps)
<BR>
* AMD Athlon® 800, 128 MB
SDRAM (30 Mbps)
<BR>
<BR>
-Tim
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 11:15, Shannon Roddy wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>What kind of bandwidth are you
running through it? I am doing my</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>testing on a full 100mbit LAN and I am
getting reduced to around 4-8</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>mbit depending on the
configuration.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Shannon</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 10:36, Scott
Harney wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> An old Packard Bell P75 with 40M
RAM</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 02:10:00PM
-0500, Shannon Roddy wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > What sort of
software/hardware are you using? I will definitely need to</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > improve the performance
issues.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > Shannon</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 12:46,
Scott Harney wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > I can't say that I have
the same issue. I have an OpenBSD IPSEc VPN. two</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > actually. one for
outside connections in and one for my wireless LAN.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > I haven't experienced
that kind of performance hit.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at
01:00:35PM -0500, Dustin Puryear wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > At 12:06 PM
6/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >I am using the
built in stuff that is in OpenBSD (IPSec) with manual</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >3des
keys.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > I haven't messed
with the OpenBSD IPSec implementation. A factor of 20, </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > huh? That's kind of
brutal, but to be honest, I have yet to toy with an </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > IPSec-based VPN
myself. Is that performance expected?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > Regards,
Dustin</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
>Shannon</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >On Tue,
2002-06-18 at 09:16, Dustin Puryear wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > What
software are you using for the actual VPN?</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > Regards,
Dustin</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > At 08:45
PM 6/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >Just
in case anyone was wondering, I did some throughput testing on
a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >test
VPN I have here. It is pretty CPU intensive as far as I can
tell.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >The
VPN was running on two OpenBSD boxes with ~400 mhz cpus. See
the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>details and gnuplots at:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~sroddy/netpipetests/netpipe_tests.html</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >About
a factor of 20 reduction in speed when going from</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>client->gateway->(encrypted)=>gateway=>(decrypted)->client.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >I am
going to do some further testing on faster machines. I am
also</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >going
to try blowfish vs. 3des encryption. Blowfish seems to be
faster</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >than
3des on ssh.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>--</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>Shannon Roddy</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>__________________________________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>Systems Administrator California Institute of
Technology</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observatory</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >ph:
(225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >fx:
(225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > >Web
Page
http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~sroddy</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>Calendar/Schedule See Home Page</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>Wireless Email (255 Chars) [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>_______________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>General mailing list</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>[email protected]</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
---</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > Dustin
Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > UNIX and
Network Consultant</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > PGP Key
available at http://www.us.pgp.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > In the
beginning the Universe was created.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > This has
been widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
_______________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > > General
mailing list</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
[email protected]</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > > >
http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
>--</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >Shannon
Roddy</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
>__________________________________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >Systems
Administrator California Institute of Technology</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >[EMAIL
PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston Observatory</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >ph:
(225)686-3106 19100 LIGO Lane</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >fx:
(225)686-7189 Livingston, LA 70754</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >Web Page
http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~sroddy</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
>Calendar/Schedule See Home Page</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >Wireless Email
(255 Chars) [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
>_______________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > >General mailing
list</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
>[email protected]</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
>http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
---</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > Dustin Puryear
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > UNIX and Network
Consultant</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > PGP Key available
at http://www.us.pgp.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > In the beginning
the Universe was created.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > This has been
widely regarded as a bad move. - Douglas Adams</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
_______________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > > General mailing
list</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
[email protected]</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > >
http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > -- </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > Scott Harney<[EMAIL
PROTECTED]></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > >
_______________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > > General mailing
list</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > >
[email protected]</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > >
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > -- </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > Shannon
Roddy</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> >
__________________________________________________________________</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > Systems Administrator
California Institute of Technology</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO
Livingston Observatory</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>> > ph: (225)686-3106
19100 LIGO Lane</FONT></FONT></I>
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Livingston, LA 70754</FONT></FONT></I>
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<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Systems Administrator
California Institute of Technology</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>[EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO Livingston
Observatory</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>ph: (225)686-3106 19100
LIGO Lane</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>fx: (225)686-7189
Livingston, LA 70754</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Web Page
http://www.ligo-la.caltech.edu/~sroddy</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR="#737373"><FONT SIZE="3"><I>Calendar/Schedule See
Home Page</FONT></FONT></I>
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PROTECTED]</FONT></FONT></I>
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