Jason:
     A couple of things...
     If the server is on your lan, then you probably do not have to
use FTP to get to that directory.  The FTP directory is just another
directory on the sever.  The server connects FTP requests to that
directory as a an FTP share by default.  If you can browse the
server, you can probably mount that directory without FTP.  (It helps
to be admin to do that...  ;->)
     A switched network is still venerable to sniffing, the nature of
the switches or hubs doesn't stop a sniffer.  However, if your LAN is
locallized, and does not connect remote sites, then sniffing is less
likely.
     For what you are doing, I would suggest trying to get the rights
to access the sever without FTP.  Barring that, you might look into
tcl, or Midnight Commander.  If they won't let you connect to the FTP
share without FTP, they probably will not be happy with tcl though
either.

Doug Riddle

--- Jason DeWitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I'm looking for the convience. Plus, I'm on the same LAN as
> where 
> I am transferring these files. It is a switched network, as I
> understand 
> it you shouldn't be able to sniff that out.
> 
> I've done some research, it seems that vfs is what allows you to
> mount 
> diffrent filesystems to the one you are running. ie: fat32, ntfs,
> the 
> bsd filesystem(can't remember name). Some of what I read, and what
> I was 
> told before, makes me believe I should be able to mount an ftp
> directory 
> as a dir on my local file system, then just save the files directly
> to 
> it. Any ideas?
> 
> Doug Riddle wrote:
> > I agree -- FTP, Telenet not to mention gopher and a few others
> are
> > going away just bcause of those issues.  I don't use emacs and
> what I
> > know about it would fit on the head of a pin.  I tend to just
> stick
> > with ssh2 at the bash prompt for anything sensitive.  If I can't
> do
> > it from the shell, I am likely to use webmin.  I don't do that
> much
> > remote file editing though.  Being lazy and paranoid, I do my
> editing
> > locally, mash it into a tar ball and use scp to put it where it
> goes.
> >  Then I can use ssh2 to unzip it and I'm done.  Although, usually
> I'm
> > not and have to repeat the process to correct errors, which, no
> > doubt, is why Jason was asking for an editor that could transfer
> > files.
> > 
> > Doug
> > 
> > --- Robert Leche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >>Doug,
> >>Doesn't emacs support file transfer.  You got to watch out for
> >>telnet and ftp as any one listening with a sniffer will capture
> >>your login id and password.
> >>
> >>Bob
> >>
> >>Riddle wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Jason:
> >>>     I think VFS is part of TCL (Tool Command Language) by
> >>>www.scriptics.com.  I do not remember who I spoke to that was
> >>
> >>using
> >>
> >>>it, but I think that was it.
> >>>
> >>>Doug Riddle
> >>>
> >>>--- Jason DeWitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>When I am working in windows, I use a text editor called
> >>>
> >>EditPlus.
> >>
> >>>>I
> >>>>like this one because it has built in ftp functions. So I can
> >>>
> >>open
> >>
> >>>>a
> >>>>file directly from an ftp server and save it right back to
> >>>
> >>there,
> >>
> >>>>without having to use an external ftp program.
> >>>>
> >>>>One time I asked in an irc chat room about a linux editor that
> >>>>would do
> >>>>the same thing. I was told that using 'VFS' any editor could
> >>>>perform the
> >>>>same function. I didn't get a chance to ask the guy to tell me
> >>>
> >>a
> >>
> >>>>bit
> >>>>more, and I've try to search in google for something to point
> >>>
> >>me in
> >>
> >>>>the
> >>>>right direction, but havn't found anything good.
> >>>>
> >>>>Extally what is 'VFS'? (I think it means 'Virtual File System')
> >>>
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>what
> >>>>will it let me do?
> >>>>
> >>>>thanks
> >>>>Jason
> >>>>
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