But don't you consider it a moral issue that common *REAL* security threats are not discussed freely?
I find that amoral at best and criminal at worst. In any event, it does a disservice to new folk. A very palatable method of succeeding at free discourse without the detriment of speech deprivation :-) would be to have a "clickers-announce" list where such items are "announced" as they occur, and then in the context of the same message you could present the time and place (and cost if applicable) of the discussion "what it is and what you can do". As an educator, I would find this a fine occasion to divert from standard curriculum, and follow a thread explaining the state of security today, what it is, how it works, and what you can do. Simply quashing a free discourse on said topic does a service to no one....ESPECIALLY newbies. --JMS > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Braud > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] IE un-Security > > > John, the problem is, a very large percentage of the > membership of CC are New-Newbies. They just got their > computer, (in hours usage), and are afraid to turn it on if > someone says "security problems". You have to remember that > on a 1 - 10 scale, the Linux group are at an 8 - 10 and the > members that we teach are in the 1 - 3 range. Security > problems are real and I try to address it every workshop I > give, but a lot of the CC membership still don't even have > the basic antivirus or firewall software even thought you can > get them free. Larry > > > John Beamon wrote: > > "Holy crap", indeed. Is it really PI to mention security > problems in > > the Clickers' list? What else do 1500 ppl talk about on a > daily basis > > in what is essentially a Windows club? > > > > </span> > > > > oof! That was harsh. I'm sorry. It slipped out before I could > > restrain it. No offense intended. Seriously, when MS' own Supreme > > Architect (or whatever his title is this week) goes for Trusted > > Computing (TM) and makes security job #1 for the world's largest > > software company, it seems that a basically Windows club would > > consider this an important subject to converse freely > about. I mean, > > if I checked my mail more than my securityfocus.com and cert.org, I > > would APPRECIATE people pointing out major security issues > from time > > to time. Finding the subject gauche is just obtuse beyond > belief in > > modern computing times. No offense intended, but I "don't get it". > > > > -j > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlu> g.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > General mailing list > [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >
