If you haven't noticed there has been a recent trend that is pushing for 
software companies to have liability. :) If that occurs then having a 
simple "We are not liable" statement would not protect the software 
developer. This would be similar to a car company having a "We are not 
liable" sticker on the front door of their car. They can have the sticker 
but it wouldn't mean anything.

At 08:39 AM 4/21/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>Most open source software (and closed too, for that matter) that I've
>come across has a disclaimer of liability for any damages. If this
>weren't the case, then Microsoft could probably have been sued into
>oblivion by now. However, I do see potential appeal in a piece of
>software that has a set guarantee of security, with some sort of
>compensation to a victim if the software is compromised.
>
>This could actually be an interesting business idea. Take some open
>source security product that already has a community trust. Start a
>business that does a few things. First, you sell installation and
>support contracts for the product. Then, you bundle insurance. For a
>monthly fee, all your customers are in an insurnace co-op for the
>product, and they could potentially claim against it if they get
>compromised via the product. With the revenues from the support and
>insurance premiums, you'd be able to fund programmers to enhance and
>further secure the products. Of course, like any insurance company,
>there's a risk of getting sued for more than you could cover, but maybe
>there's a way to protect against that, possibly with a 3rd party
>insurance policy or bonding.
>
>On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 08:14, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> > Dan Geer's "comments on the national strategy to secure cyber-space", in
> > the April 2003 issue of ;login, contains a letter to the cyber-tzars in 
> the
> > nation's government. One of his bullet points is the need to attach
> > liability to claims of security. Essentially, the argument is that if a
> > company claims that a given product is secure then they are liable for any
> > insecurities. A very interesting way to tackle software liability even if
> > only security is addressed.
> >
> > My question is how does this or any liability affect open source? We can
> > instantly assume that there will be vulnerabilities in open source
> > software. That's not up for debate really. The real question is who, if
> > anyone, is liable if an open source program is found to have been the root
> > cause of a compromise or, in a larger sense, any failure of a system? 
> There
> > are a couple of ways to consider the interplay of liability and open
> > source, and here I mention two:
> >
> > 1. open source is given blanket immunity. In this case open source is 
> given
> > immunity because users have the right to inspect the code for any issues
> > before use. (I don't think this is too realistic, and neither will most
> > legislatures.) Also, how many companies are willing to risk using software
> > that is immune from the same levels of liability as closed software? I
> > would think that at this point most closed software shops would have
> > embarked on some kind of certification program to show due diligence. Will
> > this leave under-funded open source projects out of the running?
> >
> > 2. open source is not immune. Will open source writers then be sued? Will
> > projects that have the potential to become great but are still in the 
> early
> > stages be most at risk? How do we reduce this risk? Can we limit liability
> > by following suggested best practices during development? If so, how do we
> > really agree on these best practices? What if we follow them and then the
> > compiler is ultimately the responsible party? Or the system libraries 
> under
> > Linux?
> >
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> > Puryear Information Technology
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> >
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