That sounds reason -SLAP- What was I thinking?

You are pulling my leg, right Dustin?  You compare this little DoS problem to 
Windoze remote root exploits and up2date or apt-get to Windoze updater and then 
declare "failure" of the free software desktop?  There's no comparison and your 
declaration of desktop security failure is premature.  

There's a whole  magnitudes of difference between the windoze exploits and 
those on free software because free software uses a sane system of unprivileged 
users, where Windoze has email programs auto executing code as root.  

There are qualitative and quantitative differences in the fixes as well.  
Windoze updates have been shown to consume excessive bandwidth, are difficult 
to cache and are generally trojans themselves that force unrelated program 
changes and new EULAs on their victims.  I have not updated the machine sending 
this email in months and it's got 30 MBs of upgrades waiting.  I can cache 
those packages so that my other boxes don't have to tax the internet.  There 
are also tools for pushing the upgrades through a network, if I were inclined 
to use them.  I trust these tools, they are efficient and painless.  On the 
Windoze side, I've heard of 500MB service packs, is that true?  Yet they fail 
to fix all the bugs and they never can do as good a job as the distributed 
effort of free software.  

The proof is best seen on web servers, where Apache has a majority share.  The 
deployment is there and the targets are attractive.  Do we see the same kinds 
of break ins that we see on Microsoft as we do on Apache?  Responsible 
administrators can keep those up better than they can Microsoft boxes and 
that's one of the big reasons for the move, isn't it?  

I'll be very surprised if free software does not overcome the problems created 
by Microsoft's abusive closed source business.  Microsoft has done much to 
blame the user for faults in their software and in their system of 
distribution.  The charges will ring hollow as more people adopt free software. 
 The chances are high that corporate networks and home desktops alike will be 
more frequently updated and more secure under free software.  

On 2003.05.04 10:02 Dustin Puryear wrote:
> I read that there was another vulnerability found in Evolution:
> http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2003/04/21/insecurities.html#xim
> 
> It appears to me that the Linux desktop is quickly finding itself in the 
> same position as the Windows desktop when it comes to security. Microsoft 
> has done well recently in issuing patches for vulnerabilities and bugs, but 
> users typically don't apply them. Is the same going to be true for Linux 
> users? And if so can we now compare the failure of the Linux desktop with 
> the failure of the Windows desktop in terms of security as an apples to 
> apples comparison?
> 
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> Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Puryear Information Technology
> Windows, UNIX, and IT Consulting
> http://www.puryear-it.com
> 
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