Maybe in the job you're performing.  I've been a production SQL DBA for the
last couple of years, and I definitely see mostly custom written apps for
getting data in and out of a system (feeds and reporting).  To be honest, I
wouldn't have seen the systems had there not already been a need for custom
software, though. ;-)

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Riddle
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [brlug-general] free, closed and practical software.
> 
> 
> I argee, except for SAP, and Fortran, and Unix...
> 
> Wait a minute.  I don't agree.  There is a lot of
> "in-house" software that has no application outside of
> a single business, but 99%  I don't see it.
> 
> You seem to be suggesting that 99 times out of a 100
> that a business would prefer to write their own
> software at their expense, or that given a piece of 
> off-the-shelf software a company would choose to alter it 99 
> times out of a 100.
> 
> I agree that industry invests a lot of cash in
> tweaking software for their own needs, but I have been
> in projects in large corporations that built entire 
> manufacturing units with off-the-shelf software.
> 
> I think a more realisic value for "in-house" developed
> software is down to 40 or 50 percent these days.  Even
> then you would have to qualify what is modified and
> what is developed.
> 
> I spent six years at Exxon-Mobile and left in 2001. 
> During that time we went from about 80% "in-house"
> software to about 8% "in house" software.  That 8% was
> in the labs.
> 
> DSM, same story.  I would love to think that the major 
> corporations are still hiring and paying programmers, but my 
> experience has not borne that out.
> 
> I am not trying to rile you, I am just offering a
> different view.  It has been close to ten years since
> I had to trouble-shoot code for "in-house" software.
> 
> If you can offer hope to budding programmers, please
> do.  I would love to hear they can get a job doing
> something besides making X-Box trash.
> 
> Doug


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