Perhaps my knowledge of open source is dated, but how can an open source 
project stop someone from forking off of their code?

At 10:49 AM 8/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>I look at the threat of lawsuits defending open source IP as more evidence
>that open source is becoming a viable business model. It means there is
>money on the table that somebody wants. ;)
>
>The summary is that the JBoss project (http://www.jboss.org) was snubbed a
>long time ago by the Apache Software Foundation to provide a base for an
>Apache J2EE project. Yesterday, the ASF has announced a J2EE effort
>(http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10872) and stated that JBoss developers
>are part of the effort. I'll bet its actually former JBoss developers who
>previously walked out of the project. The guy heading up the JBoss project
>(Marc Fleury) has his panties in a wad and will not allow the JBoss source
>to be licensed under the Apache Software License.
>
>More soap opera below.
>
>John Hebert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: marc fleury
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>Subject: [jboss-news] July 2003 news
>
>...
>
>NEWS
>Xxxx
>
>JBoss J2EE certification effort.
>JBoss is increasingly used in production and as you all move to
>production we realize that certification brand becomes an important
>check mark.  We have the financials to take it on, so we are. So many
>people have asked us where that was at and the press is having a field
>day with the story.  It seems everyone likes drama.  So there is no
>drama at least not anymore on our side.  For all intents and purposes,
>JBoss has agreed to ALL the conditions imposed by SUN. It includes what
>for us is a hefty sum of money.  They didn't give us a break, they
>didn't give us any break, which is kind of normal if you think about it
>as there are many parties involved and SUN must treat all licensees the
>same.   In short the ball is in SUN's court and we are looking forward
>to inking the contract.
>
>Apache J2EE effort.
>First a bit of history.  I offered EJBoss when it was 4 month old to
>Apache.  The guys at Jakarta vote OK unanimously and their vote was
>overridden by Brian Behlendorf. The reason from behlendorf was that they
>'were not the dust bin of open source projects'. I heard the Apache
>crowd got offended for me calling them "a bunch of fat ladies drinking
>tea" at a later date when they were running around telling us how to run
>our project.  We had reports that this was the non-official reason for
>this "challenge".  Challenge accepted.  More seriously as we overtake
>them in corporate penetration and business model, I guess they are
>finally looking beyond the HTTPD C codebase and imitation is the
>sincerest form of flattery.
>
>We are the real thing, all we have so far is talk and announcement,
>announcements are a dime a dozen.  Apache code on this project has yet
>to be released and then production reached and then maturity bla bla
>bla.  I have little comment on the project except to say that JBOSS IS
>NOT A PART OF IT. In a misleading announcement Apache chairman's Greg
>Stein implied JBoss was participating and that JBOSS CODE WAS PART OF
>THE PROJECT.  No current JBoss developers are participating in the
>Apache J2EE project and since JBoss is LGPL only full copyright holders
>can offer JBoss code under other licenses.  Bottom line? JBoss can't be
>forked by apache.   As our customers know, we are a business, a serious
>one and we seriously believe in and defend "professional open source".
>That includes legal protection of IP.  Make no mistakes, JBoss will
>AGGRESIVELY defend its copyright and LGPL license.
>
>...
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