Thanks --mat
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 16:07, Shannon Roddy wrote: > A couple people on these lists asked me about internships at LIGO. So, > below is some information that was sent to me. I would recommend it to > any student that would want to spend a summer working at a really cool > large science project... > > Shannon > > -----Original Message----- > > > http://www.its.caltech.edu/~surf/ > > Surf info can be found at above link. > Bonnie > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [Fwd: Re: Student interested in summer internship] > > > Bonnie, > > Can you forward any info you have on the SURF programs? See below. > > I have now had two students inquire about this. > > Thanks, > Shannon > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Student interested in summer internship > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Yes, I believe SURF is open to any major, in principle; Bonnie probably > knows the contact at Caltech but I would bet the URL is accessible from > the main CIT site. > > Shannon Roddy wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > > > I was asked today by a University of Louisiana Lafayette student if > > there was a way that he could do some sort of an internship here next > > summer. I mentioned the SURF program etc. Is the program only open to > > physics students, or is it open to other majors also? Or is there > > perhaps another program he could come in under? > > Thanks, > > Shannon > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/pipermail/general_brlug.net/attachments/20030919/8e60bdd8/attachment.bin From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Sep 19 18:17:33 2003 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shannon Roddy) Date: Fri Sep 19 17:17:33 2003 Subject: [brlug-general] 4 year degrees and IT positions In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adam J. Melancon wrote: > In response to the open job position > http://www.selu.edu/Administration/Depts/HumanResources/hrojobun.htm#Systems%20Administrator > > Let me preface this with: > I can fully understand that working at a university, they would want > you to have a degree from a university. > > On to the rant: > Why is it that places always want a Bachelor's degree. For example, I > have an Associate of Applied Science Degree in Computer Networking > with several certifications, and have been a systems administrator for > all of the libraries in Vermilion Pairsh library for over 2 years > now. According to most of the requirements requesting Bachelor's > degree these days, I guess I got lucky to get this position. Not to > offend anyone, but I have had conversations with people that have > computer science degrees and wasn't too impressed. To be fair though, > I have talked to many people with an Associates degree in computers > and was really not impressed. What is it about having a Bachelor's > degree in computer science that makes them "stand out" enough to make > this the base line requirement. This tends to irritate me also. I work with some Phd's who can't tie their freaking shoes in the morning. On the other hand, there are some PhDs here that are absolutely brilliant and they make my head spin. > > > Most of the computer people that I have seen that are very good at > what they do don't nessecarily have a bachelor's degree, but more of a > love for technology, patience, the ability to want to learn new > things, and the ability to problem solve. > > Personally, I had no interest in going to get a 4 year degree. I > wanted to get in there and get hands on experience with networking and > operating systems instead of learning COBOL, FORTRAN, and C. I have > NO interest in learning programming (although I have more interest in > it now, not enough to go to school for it though), which is what I see > that most colleges teach in a computer science program. I agree. > > Do any of you know a university that has a degree in networking? I'm > just curious. I was very happy with the level of education I received > at the technical collage, although I had a very good instructor who > actually cared and showed up, and also had to go way above and beyond > on my own to get to the level that I'm at. There are actually some universities that are starting to offer degrees more along the lines of systems/network adminstration. I cant remember any right now, but I know I read an article a few months ago. > > Also, there are a lot of people who have degrees in other fields, but > later get into the tech field. I wonder if they are not considered > for positions like this since they don't have a "Bachelor's degree in > Computer Science or a related field from an accredited university" > > Sorry for the rant, but I guess i'm just curious as to other people's > opinions on 4 year degrees and IT positions. I think most of the time you see this because the manager who knows nothing about IT decided that he should get a CS grad. Also, to the management types a degree "says something" about the graduate. I don't generally agree with this line of thinking, but most people do. Shannon > > > Thoughts? > > Adam J. Melancon > > _________________________________________________________________ > Try MSN Messenger 6.0 with integrated webcam functionality! > http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_webcam > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
