Doug, While you are being very generous, I for one do not think that putting your money in BRLUG would be best use of that money. You should instead give it to your family. If you still feel strongly about giving money to further the mission of free|open source software, then choose a worthy project or organization such as the EFF or one of my favorites, the Freenet Project (http://freenet.sf.net). I think Freenet should appeal to you in particular.
John Hebert -----Original Message----- From: Doug Riddle To: [email protected] Sent: 9/30/03 9:26 PM Subject: RE: [brlug-general] LSU LUG? Please! disagree! I wanted to open debate! Still, you dodged the point about the money. Granted, if it is my insurance denenro, I really could care less. At that point. For obvious reasons. Others might care. Should I allow that a trust fund be set up for the BRLUG if there isn't one family member left? I do no not want to be a pain, but I do want to plan for my death. Lord knows, I've seen enough of it to know it happens to us all. What do the BRLUG by-laws stipulate? --- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug, > > I respectfully have to disagree again. I don't agree > that a totally separate > Linux group at LSU would somehow "take away" from > anyone's efforts at BRLUG. > By that logic, I should not start a Gonzales area > LUG. Does an effort at LSU > have to be LUG at all? I still say just start a > mailing list at LSU for > Linux related topics and let it rip. If something > grows out of it, then > great, let it grow. But starting out big first can > result in that effort > collapsing on itself. Is your thinking that you > don't have enough time to > put into it and consider that it being part of BRLUG > would somehow give the > effort some lift? > > I still say that what is needed is to start a > mailing list somewhere on the > lsu.edu domain and invite people who have expressed > an interest and those > who may be interested. And then spraypaint Tux > graffiti all over campus. > **This is humor. I'm not condoning vandalism.** > > I say let a thousand LUGs blossom, to suit whatever > purposes makes em > different. Linux and the free|open source software > movement is > non-heirarchical. You are still thinking Cathedral, > when you should be > thinking Bazaar. > > Ah, I think I see why you are thinking this way. You > are a military man. > Heirarchies and chains of command are imprinted into > your RNA. At ease, > soldier, you have paid your dues. > > John Hebert > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Riddle > To: [email protected] > Sent: 9/30/03 6:59 PM > Subject: RE: [brlug-general] LSU LUG? > > Baton Rouge Linux User Group. > > I think that sort of sums up the area. There are > not a great number of us. A thread got started on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] about a way to promote and > coordinate Open Source at LSU. > > I think that is a great cause, and at least two > slackers from BRLUG are also on campus. > > After hearing the comments of the group, I thought a > LUG would be the perfect solution. Albeit I begged > off of much a role. I now have to research irons > in > the fire, and I was not hired on as a researcher. > (The AgCenter is open-mided about where the ideas > come > from.) > > An lsu.edu mailing list and an lsu.edu site would > add > credibility to the uninitiated on-campus, but I > really > do not want to be involved with anything that would > take anything away from the BRLUG. > > I think having an established LUG with ties to > O'Riley > is a better idea. The LSU Chapter of the Greater > Baton Rouge Linux User Group. Many on-campus > members > will (or could be) permanent, but the students will > be > transitory. I think the continuity would be better > served by the involvment of the BRLUG. > > That is just a slacker's opinion, and I am very > often > really wrong. As I said, I do not want to take > anything away from the work you, John, and Dustin > have > done. i admire the both of you more than mere words > can express for your tireless efforts on all of our > behalf. The two of you do not get enough thank > you's. > Y'all have a lot of great help too, and God bless > them all. > > I am sorry I fell out picture for a while, but these > two projects, if we can get them to fruition, will > be > a great boon to local farmers, and the other to all > impared people in the south. I cannot wait until I > can show you my babies and see if y'all think > they're > pretty, but LSU is real picky about Intellectual > Property. You have to sign really ugly agreements > to > get their help, but once they wade in they don't > hold > back. It is nice to know think my ideas have merit. > > Now all we have to do is prove it. > > I'll be back, hopefully with some cash to buy some > computers for the lab. The ugly agreement does give > me a share, but I have to give it back to the > community. Trust me, the first idea is so slap your > head stupidly obvious, I cannot belive we are going > to > get a patent on it. It would be like playing poker > with the blind to keep that money. > > The second idea is to help impaired people. What > kind > of low-life takes money from the handi-capped? No, > I'll be giving my share to the BRLUG, The March of > Dimes, And the Heart and Lung assoc. If there is any > money. Hey, how about a BRLUG endowed chair at the > AgCenter? No that would be cool. We could set up a > chair to encourge the use of Open Source software > and > Open Standards in research... > > Pipe dreams for a year or two, but trust me, these > are > necessary, obvious as the nose on you face, ideas. > I > am not a genius. I just tinker, and see stuff. > > What should we do the money? I hereby promise the > BRLUG thirty percent of whatever I get from my two > current projects if all of the funds go to the > non-profit undertaking a committee elected by our > email list approves by a unanimous vote. If and > when > the BRLUG gets money, mine or anyone else's what > should we do with it? Do we owe any to the Cajun > Clicker's? > > Granted the projects I am working on are still in > research, but I have the BRLUG named on an insurace > policy in case the famliy goes together. God forbid > the state get it! > > What would we do with ten grand or ten hundred > grand? > > Food for thought. What do the by-laws say? > > Doug > > > --- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Doug, > > > > Please define what you mean by "mini BRLUG". I > > perceive that as being an > > off-shoot of BRLUG, or somehow under the umbrella > of > > BRLUG. I don't think > > this would attract interest at LSU among LSU > > faculty. I'm sure that BRLUG > > members who are connected somehow to LSU would > feel > > free to be members of > > both, or even to leave BRLUG and join a separate > LSU > > related Linux group. > > > > The goal, IMO, is to promote Linux advocacy, not > > BRLUG advocacy. > > > > I'm not trying to raise a platoon sargeant's > dander > > here; just trying to > > understand why you want an LSU LUG to be a "mini > > BRLUG". :) > > > > John Hebert > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doug Riddle > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: 9/30/03 2:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] LSU LUG? > > > > More later, but I am thinking a mini Brlug. There > > is > > interest in an LSU site to organize Open Source > > software efforts and software. There is interest > in > === message truncated === ===== Warmest Regards, Doug Riddle http://www.dougriddle.com http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/ http://www.libranet.com -- "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the Peoples' Liberty Teeth." - George Washington -- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
