im going to qcon! its gonna be fun.


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   > From: Brad Bendily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   > Subject: [brlug-general] quakecon!
   > Sent: Jul 06 2004 22:50:41
   >
   >  sweet quakecon is going to host the first
   >  doom3 tournament!
   >  
   >  http://www.quakecon.org/forums/showthread.php?p=20891
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Rushing)
Date: Tue Jul  6 21:27:50 2004
Subject: [brlug-general] RedHat replacement?
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There are a number of changes in the areas you outlined for a comparison 
between Debian and Redhat.  The directory layout is close, both being 
somewhat LFS compatible.  (Debian tends to use more subdirectories under 
/etc/ than Redhat. )  The packaging system is different .deb vs .rpm. 
But, the command dpkg is equivalent to the rpm command.  And everyone 
uses apt-get as the frontend to dpkg.   You will be pleased with the 
availability of packages.  There are packages available for your stated 
apps.   The init system is a little different, but it's still the SysV 
style init.  I've noticed it uses some features that make it easier to 
configure via console, where redhat focuses on gui style tools.

The only problem is that Debian Stable / Woody is roughly equivalent to 
Redhat 7.3.   If you need newer packages you might want to consider 
Debian testing.

If you are more comfortable with the Redhat style, then whiteboxlinux 
would be a good choice.


James Kuhns wrote:
> I've been looking at woody and it doesn't seem too big of a change from RH.
> I think I'm going to install woody on the new box in the DMZ and shift my
> server stuff over there.  After this I'll have a spare box (the original RH
> one) so I'm going to put Fedora Core on it and put it in my LAN to play
> with.  I've been using RH for so long that I think its time to try something
> new - really interested in checking out apt (I never had much luck with it
> under RH so I kept going back to rpm).
> 
> James
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Tim Fournet
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:15 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] RedHat replacement?
> 
> I find Fedora Core2 a great, stable, distro that's well-suited to a 
> hobbyist or home PC. However, it's got a very short release and 
> maintenance cycle, so it's really not a great choice for a server OS 
> unless you plan on taking it down for upgrades at least once or twice a 
> year. For servers you should look at one of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 
> rebuilds. Since RHEL is built on totally Open Source software, anyone is 
> free to take their sources, remove the trademarked bits like pictures 
> and compile and distribute a near-identical system. I've been using 
> Whitebox Linux ( http://www.whiteboxlinux.org ) for some time now and I 
> find it great. An interesting note about it is that the project is run 
> by administrators of the Beauregard Parish Library in DeRidder, LA. I 
> can install any bit of software that expects Red Hat or RHEL and have it 
> work just as expected. Basically you're running a copy of RHEL without 
> the need for a support contract, and still totally free and totally 
> legal. I have it on several production servers and it runs great. There 
> are other rebuild projects like cAos ( http://www.caosity.org ) but I 
> haven't spent much time looking at them myself.
> 
> -Tim
> 
> James Kuhns wrote:
> 
> 
>>Others have probably asked this already but I must have missed it.
>>
>>Does anyone have a recommendation on another distro that is layed out like
>>RedHat?
>>
>>I'm about to remove my RedHat 9.0 box from my network since RedHat dropped
>>support.  I've been using RedHat for years and really don't have the time
>>right now to fumble with a completely new distro so I was thinking of going
>>to Fedora Core 2 as a replacement. How close is the Fedora project's stuff
>>to the RedHat distro (also how stable)?  I'm mainly concerned about the
>>directory layout, init system, and package system.
>>
>>Basically, I'm looking to setup a machine with apache, qmail, bind,
> 
> openssh,
> 
>>openssl, and a few dev tools.  I'm seriously considering not installing X
> 
> at
> 
>>all since I don't use the machine as a desktop and can't even remember the
>>last time I opened it.
>>

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