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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shannon Roddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: Warning - RANT follows. Re: pansies? was Re: [brlug-general]


> >
> > American, love it or leave it, is that what you are trying to say?
> >
> > I am quite interested to hear this answer.
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
>
> More or less.
>
> You know, I had a political argument with a person from U.T.
> Brownsville the other night at the observatory.  I conceded that Bush
> ain't the greatest president, but given the options I was still voting
> for him (or at least Badnarik) over Kerry.
>
> Anyway, he got off on the subject of the economy & Bush's spending
> frenzy.  Which then led to the recession that Clinton created and Bush
> cutting taxes to stimulate the economy.  He claims that when the
> economy heats up the taxes should go back up.  So, I say why not just
> cut the damn entitlements and gov. spending instead of raising taxes.
> The difference between Cons and Libs is that one wants to empower
> people, the other wants to empower gov't.
>
> Anyway, somehow we got onto the "redistribution of wealth."  this has
> to be one of the things that pisses me off the most.  He thinks that
> once a person dies, his children have no claim to what that person
> earned while on this planet.  Everything should be given up to the
> government.  After all, the children did not earn it, so why should
> they have it.  More of the class warfare crap.  So, I told him that if
> he did not like it, go live in socialism or communism, but don't *&^%
> up this country since that is not what it was founded on.  How does he
> have any right to take what my father earned from my sister and I?
> Same goes for my paycheck on a daily basis.  Gov't sanctioned theft.
>
> So, his remark to me was, I was born an American, why should I have to
> go live somewhere else to see the kind of society I want?  My reply to
> him was "What have you done to earn your right to vote?  To free
> speech? Oh that's right, you were born here.  So you reap the benefits
> and the "luck" of being born in this great nation...  So why can
> someone's children not reap the benefits and luck of their parents'
> hard labor?  After all, they likely worked as hard as they did so that
> they could provide a future for their children."
>
> What pisses me off about the libs is they want this great utopian
> society.  It is never gonna happen.  Life ain't fair.  At least in
> America you have the OPPORTUNITY to make this life what you want it to
> be.  If you don't seize on that opportunity, so be it, but don't blame
> me and my wallet.  Libs have forgotten about two little words that
> mean a whole lot:  personal responsibility.
>
> For me the libs come closer to 1984 than the cons any day.  Yeah, I
> don't agree with the Patriot Act, etc. however it seems the libs want
> a world where everyone gets the same size cubicle, the same bland
> apartment for everyone, everyone makes exactly the same amount of
> money no matter what they do, is entitled to the same 1.5 children,
> etc. etc. etc.  If you deviate at all from what they think is normal
> and rational or "want" something that you do not "need", then you are
> an extremist, or a nut, or greedy.  Why should someone be penalized
> because they are successful?  If libs really wanted to be fair, they
> would not hate the idea of a flat tax.  But every conversation I've
> had with the libs shows me that they detest this idea.  Or do away
> with income tax and bring in a sales tax or a use tax.
>
> Personally, I like the fact that not everyone is wealthy, or lucky, or
> the same intelligence.  It makes this life interesting.  I was not
> dealt a good hand when I was brought into this world, but I made the
> best of it.  'bout damn time some other people start doing the same,
> or quit bitchin about the rich people in this world and being pissed
> off because they have what you don't.  He chose to be a research
> physicist at a university.  So he barely makes middle class wages and
> will never be wealthy.  He chose that path, and that probably is what
> makes him happy.  But he CHOSE IT.  Stop being pissed that there are
> people in this world that have things that he does not and wanting the
> gov't to take it from them, because in his eyes they are not "worthy".
>
> Libs have an entirely different philosophy, one that nauseates me.
>
> IT DRIVES ME NUTS the double standard that the libs have.
>
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