This would make a good topic. Let's consider this topic for our February 
advanced meeting.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edmund Cramp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:38 PM
Subject: [brlug-general] $BIG_NUM (was Supporting Linux vs. Linux Zealotry)


> David Jackson wrote:
>
>>    I find your entire argument to be wrong; not just wrong as in 
>> incorrect, but wrong as in morally, and ethically.  Does this make me an 
>> idealist?  Certainly, but I am in good company.  Our founding fathers 
>> were idealists.
>>
>>    Does that make me wrong, simply because I am an idealist?  I think 
>> not.
>
> <snip>
>
>>    Well, where the hell is their money coming from then?  Companies 
>> operate from profits, and if open source is not profitable, without 
>> adopting proprietary standards, why is Redhat even in business?
>
> Well this is a *lot* more interesting than the topics for the recent LUG 
> meetings!
>
> I think that the question of "What is a programmer worth?" is 
> interesting - I've been employing programmers (on and off - I've even been 
> one myself) for quite a few years (how long? - let's just say that I 
> remember seeing Linus' original RFC), and it's rarely been a happy 
> experience.  I've seen "programmers" who were worth a lot less than 
> $8/hour - and $8/hr is quite a bit more than our government thinks you 
> need to live on.
>
> I think that programmers almost always under estimate the complexity of 
> the problem, and over estimate their ability to code for it.  These two 
> failures lead directly to projects failing to complete in anything 
> remotely resembling "on time" and inevitably either costing and taking 
> more time and money than budgeted and/or being drastically pruned to get 
> something out of the door... which in turn leads to poor coding and 
> application bugs.
>
> On the other hand - one of the good things about GPL/Open Source 
> programming is that, in general, code is released when it works, and it's 
> then tested by a diverse collection of folks with no pressing need to 
> release it on any given date.  This makes GPL software more likely to work 
> than many commercial applications and tends to prevent the release of code 
> that would be better recycled as firelighters.
>
> I don't understand people who think that there's no sound commercial basis 
> for GPL software - I guess these are people who never think about how much 
> money they spend on razor blades or printer cartridges.
>
> Edmund Cramp
>
> -- 
> Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.
>
>
>
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