Asking the group an honest question is sort of like .... "Trying to take a sip from the FIRE HYDRANT of knowledge"
(that is to say, we've got an excellent knowledge base here!) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christian Tortorich Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: wardriving is passive radio reception was RE: [brlug-general] kismetvs. prismstumbler No, I got that part, I was replying to someone earlier who asked about logging unauthorized connections. I just assumed that people who were wardriving were collecting that information for the purpose of using those APs. I know I did it when I first moved downtown before I could get internet access hooked up and I needed to ssh to work to fix something. The architecture firm next door must have a cisco since it bleeds thru all the way to my front room. I found it with netstumbler, then connected. I assumed this was generally the case, to try to actually USE the APs. Otherwise it seems, well, silly and academic and geeky. Which is fine. Love u guys. Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hebert Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: wardriving is passive radio reception was RE: [brlug-general] kismetvs. prismstumbler --- Christian Tortorich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can certainly log MACs on your AP, correct? I > mean that doesn't give > you much.... you could then use iptables to watch > the activity of those > MACs I guess..... Christian, Wardriving is completely passive radio reception. In other words, wardriving is simply logging the available wireless networks in a location with no transmission back to those wifi networks; it does not mean attaching to those networks. So, the AP won't see wardrivers, hence their MAC, _unless_ they attempt to connect to its network. Attempting to connect to a network would entail sending radio waves from your WIFI card back to the AP, but all the wardriving apps I've seen intentionally do not do that, in order to keep your rig from being detected. For example, <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/6f76/";>these</a> devices do passive radio reception of the 2.4Ghz range in order to detect WIFI networks in the area, but without the automatic logging that a PC can do. You could easily do the same with the right ham radio equipment in your car, albeit a lot more expensively. Passively receiving radio signals is not illegal, as others have pointed out. Transmitting on frequencies that you do not have authorization for _is_ illegal. John __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page - Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
