Thanks Will - I'll go and digest these and, since it seems that the cameras are not running under a LINUX operating system, "that's all I have to say about that." (Forrest Gump).
Regards Edmund Cramp -- "Harry very carefully read the manual - four times - because Snape would cut off his breathing privs if he asked him a question that the manual could answer..." -- Harry Potter and the Book Of The BOFH > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willhill > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 12:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Traffic Camera Rant, while my > power is still up. > > Yes, I have links. Let's see if they still work or if they > have traveled to the memory hole. I posted them to the Cajun > Clickers a few months back. > Wikipedia still has most of them and a reasonable discussion > about 20 years of overwhelming public opposition to them and > other forms of automated traffic enforcement. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_safety_camera#Political_issues > > Another nice run down is here: > http://www.beat-traffic-cameras.com/issues.htm > > Here is a link to the Virginia study showing an increase in > injury accidents: > > http://vtrc.virginiadot.org/PubDetails.aspx?PubNo=05-R21 > "Virginia localities are not generating net revenue. ... > Further the data show that the cameras are correlated with a > definite decrease in crashes that are directly attributable > to red light running, a definite increase in rear-end > crashes, a possible decrease in angle crashes, a net decrease > in injury crashes attributable to red light running, and an > increase in total injury crashes." > > Sadly, according to Wikipedia, Virginia put them back in. > Corruption, triumphed over science there. > > The San Diego bribery link vanished and Google is crap > flooded. Schneier lists six cities where officials were > bribed to shorten yellow lights and compromise public safety > for the sake of these cameras: > http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/08/red_light_camer.html > > This article has lists the costs, up to $150,000 per intersection: > http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/09/nj_tries_out_traffic_ > camera_pi.html > > Here's an article about how they've already been abused to > thwart political opposition in the UK: > http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news6252.htm > > Traffic cameras are the tip of an ugly police state. People > don't want cameras but corruption brings them in. They > reduces public safety but can be used for all sorts of abuse. > It bothers me that money was wasted this way that could have > been spent on electricity infrastructure, but that kind of > thing should be expected. The less rights people have, the > more they will find themselves in uncomfortable situations. > > On Saturday 13 September 2008, Edmund Cramp wrote: > > Will - do you have references for any of these accusations? > > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://mail.brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
