I will 2nd Joshua's statement. If it's not in base or epel, I consider how much I really need it. I will sometimes use dag, being careful any packages i get do not conflict with base/epel packages. I always avoid Joe User 'oh hai i just figured out how to make an rpm' repositories. I would compile from source before using an unknown repo.
And for God's sake, installing with '--nodeps' is NOT the "fix" to rpm dependency hell. If you do that, it's not rpm's fault. That's like running 'rm -rf /lib' and then complaining that the rm command hosed up your system. ray On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Joshua Frugé <[email protected]> wrote: > From my experience the problems come in when you start using external > repos/rpms. If it's not in the base repos, or epel, don't install it. > > Just like with MS, drink the kool aid, if red hat doesn't give it to > you, you don't need it (or more likely, you need the right os to fit > your purpose). > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:47 AM, mat branyon <[email protected]> wrote: >> http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/ >> Rpmforge helps a lot >> >> I haven't used centos in over a year though. I am debian monkey now. >> >> I haven't really experienced dependency hell with yum, but holy shit, yum is >> slow. At least ports/portage is spitting some info out at you that let's you >> know something is happening. >> >> Also: sup >> In addendum: san antonio? Can't say much, still in denver over here... >> Conclusion: I hate rpm too >> >> -mat >> >> On Aug 7, 2012 11:18 PM, "John Hebert" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've started using Linux (CentOS 6) in preparation to take the RHCSA >>> Exam 200. I was previously running WinXP (the dreaded FPS monkey had >>> me) and only ran Linux in VMs or a dual-boot config for learning. I >>> work in a big iron AIX environment, so I get my UNIX jollies that way. >>> >>> The first thing that struck me was that RPM is still the same elephant >>> in the room no one mentions, just three years older. Is it just me? Am >>> I missing some magic tool out there? >>> >>> I get my hopes up every time I see the message "Resolving >>> dependencies..." only to have them dashed again and again, with the >>> response "Errors: this rpm requires that rpm and this other one too, >>> and while you're at it, you should probably get this one as well, even >>> though its name has nothing to do with the rpm you want". And the >>> insanity repeats itself, but now I am Googling for other rpms located >>> on sites with more ads than good search results. >>> >>> It would be more truthful if the Package Installer's response was "Sit >>> and wait while I tell you how you have failed me. It's your fault. You >>> should have known what I need and where to get it." And then it gives >>> you the silent treatment. You try again a few more times, but the >>> effort is usually more than the reward. In the end, nothing gets >>> resolved. You tell yourself you don't need that rpm, that you can live >>> without it and move on. But it's just a lie. >>> >>> Yum seems to have stricter standards for package distribution and the >>> local databases are cool, but it still seems I don't have right repos >>> setup. Is there some master site listing the yum repos and the >>> packages available there? >>> >>> RPM based package management is a muddled, mish-mash misnomer. I want >>> something like Gentoo's portage, or OpenBSD's ports tree. Ok, there >>> are not as many software packages available, but you KNOW that up >>> front, and not after going through many gyrations of the "Resolving >>> dependencies ..." madness. The time and frustration spent in >>> attempting to manually resolve rpms could have been better spent in >>> compiling code form source, which to me is a lot of fun and a chance >>> to learn something. >>> >>> Frustrated in San Antonio. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> General mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >> > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
