Hi Saptarshi,
There is no requirement that an e-node must also have a forest attached to it. In fact, in large implementations, the norm is to configure e-nodes to do only e-node work and d-nodes to do only d-node work. That is what Groups are for. You might, for example, set up 2 groups, one for e-nodes and one for d-nodes. The d-node groups do not need to have any app servers on them, and the e-node groups do not need any databases or forests. This means that each node can devote its entire life (and all of its resources) to its role. For example, if you have a group that only has d-nodes, you do not need to allocate much expanded tree cache (that is used for e-node processing). Similarly, if a group is only e-nodes, they do not need to allocate much list cache or compressed tree cache. Be extra careful when changing these values, however, and make sure you know what role your hosts are playing. Hosts in a MarkLogic Server cluster communicate via the xdqp protocol, which is an internal communication mechanism. Any changes to the cluster are communicated to the other hosts via xdqp, and forest data is transferred to the e-node via xdqp. All of this communication happens automatically. Hope that helps, -Danny From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Saptarshi Newyork Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:08 PM To: General Mark Logic Developer Discussion Subject: RE: [MarkLogic Dev General] Difference between eNode and Data Node Hi All, Thanks for a great description and examples. I still have couple of questions to add: 1) I understand that same node can work as both eNode and dNode, bu if I want to have separate eNode and dNode, in that case, is there any difference in configuration of the host for these two nodes? 2) In an architecture where both eNode and dNode exist, suppose a request comes to eNode which requires an access to forest. Then it's written that eNode will send the request to dNode to access the forest. But every evaluator node(eNode) is also attached to some forests. How this transfer of request is achieved? How eNode can make a call to dNode? Is there any configuration or coding required to achieve this? Can under any scenario eNode access its own forest? Thanks in advance. regards, Saptarshi --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Danny Sokolsky <[email protected]> wrote: From: Danny Sokolsky <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [MarkLogic Dev General] Difference between eNode and Data Node To: "General Mark Logic Developer Discussion" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM Hi Geert, Thanks for the great description. I will just add one thing to what you said: Whether a host acts as an e-node or a d-node depends on what it is doing at the time, and a given host in a MarkLogic cluster can behave as an e-node, a d-node, or both. For example, if you have a single host instance of MarkLogic Server, that host acts as both the e-node (to evaluate XQuery) and as the d-node (to perform forest operations on content). -Danny -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <http://us.mc588.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=general-boun...@developer. marklogic.com> [mailto:[email protected] <http://us.mc588.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=general-boun...@developer. marklogic.com> ] On Behalf Of Geert Josten Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:59 PM To: General Mark Logic Developer Discussion Subject: RE: [MarkLogic Dev General] Difference between eNode and Data Node Saptarshi, I am not an authority on this matter either, but I will try to explain as well as possible.. 1) MarkLogic Server is designed to operate with evaluator nodes and database nodes. The database nodes access content stored in forests and perform search queries over the forests. The evaluator nodes are responsible for executing the Xquery code, webdav requests, XDBC calls etc. If the involved code to be executed doesn't access any content stored in the database (no cts:search calls, no doc statements, etc), but purely relies on in memory constructed content, then database nodes are not accessed. It has nothing to do with caching of any kind, it is just that content can be constructed on the fly, by just incorporating it in the Xquery script for instance. The example Eric supplied is valid. 2) MarkLogic Server does not handle failover when filesystems crash. The documentation (http://developer.marklogic.com/pubs/4.0/books/cluster.pdf) explains that filesystem crashes should be handled by using a clustered filesystem. There are some suggestions in that document, but I can imagine that a RAID configuration might suffice for simples situations as well. Forest-level failover works as follows: you assign multiple hosts to one physically shared forest. These hosts are listed in order. If the 1st host drops out, the 2nd host takes that forest over. Replication of data is not necessary that way, making it more efficient and much more scalable. At the front-end you have also the HTTP servers etc on the hosts. You can have as many as you like. By putting a hardware or software load-balancer in front you can distribute calls coming in at a single port to all available 'evaluator' nodes. Load-balancing is not handled by MarkLogic Server itself, there are plenty solutions readily available so why bother. ;-) I am not sure whether an HTTP server is the actual evaluator node, but I don't think so. There is this Task Server configuration page within the MarkLogic Server Group Administration. This configures Task threads on all hosts within a single group. I have the impression these act as evaluator nodes and the Databases in the MarkLogic Server Administration correspond to the database nodes. Forest-level failover is configured at the Forest configuration pages. I hope this makes things clearer to you! Kind regards, Geert > Drs. G.P.H. Josten Consultant http://www.daidalos.nl/ Daidalos BV Source of Innovation Hoekeindsehof 1-4 2665 JZ Bleiswijk Tel.: +31 (0) 10 850 1200 Fax: +31 (0) 10 850 1199 http://www.daidalos.nl/ KvK 27164984 De informatie - verzonden in of met dit emailbericht - is afkomstig van Daidalos BV en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onbedoeld hebt ontvangen, verzoeken wij u het te verwijderen. Aan dit bericht kunnen geen rechten worden ontleend. > From: [email protected] <http://us.mc588.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=general-boun...@developer. marklogic.com> > [mailto:[email protected] <http://us.mc588.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=general-boun...@developer. marklogic.com> ] On Behalf Of > Saptarshi Newyork > Sent: maandag 23 maart 2009 12:30 > To: [email protected] <http://us.mc588.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] c.com> > Subject: [MarkLogic Dev General] Difference between eNode and > Data Node > > Hi , > I have a few questions: > > 1) What is the difference between eNode and dNode? I have > read that E-nodes are required to evaluate XQuery programs, > XCC/XDBC requests, WebDAV requests, and other server > requests.and dNodes are those which directly talks with the > database/forest. It is also told that if the request does not > need any forest data to complete, then an e-node request is > evaluated entirely on the e-node. I do not understand how > this is possible!! If eNode is meant for XQuery evaluation > and XQuery needs an XML to process, then every eNode request > should talk to dNode. Is there any caching mechanism? It will > be great if anybody can explain this to me? > > > > 2) There are two failover mechanism explained in the > documentation. Forest level failover and eNode level > failover. It seems that forest data level failover is not > handled by Marklogic. Like if the filesystem crashes, is > there anyway by which Marklogic server replicates the forest > to other hosts in same or different cluster? If this feature > is not presently supported, then when can we expect this on > the roadmap? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > regards, > > Saptarshi > > _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] <http://us.mc588.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] c.com> http://xqzone.com/mailman/listinfo/general _______________________________________________ General mailing list [email protected] <http://us.mc588.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected] c.com> http://xqzone.com/mailman/listinfo/general
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