Hi Jakob,


Late reply, hopefully still worthwhile..



I can't answer about XML Schema 1.1 support, maybe Mary can?



About low traffic on validation: I guess validation is indeed used less in
MarkLogic, even though it is not difficult at all if you have good 1.0 xsd
avaible.



If you want certainty that all docs in the database validate against a
specific xsd, then I would suggest using a pre-commit trigger on inserts.
That way you can validate anything that gets inserted regardless of how it
got inserted. It is also easy to superimpose upon pre-existing code, just
like protected collections and such..



Cheers,

Geert



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*Verzonden:* woensdag 15 januari 2014 10:57
*Aan:* MarkLogic Developer Discussion
*Onderwerp:* Re: [MarkLogic Dev General] Validation against schema issue



hi,

thanks for this. a couple of follow-up questions:

- will there be support for xml schema 1.1 at some stage?

- i have the impression that is very few talk about validation of documents
on this list. is that because people don't validate? or because it's so
easy that it's not worth mentioning? i'd be interested in patterns related
to validation people are using. validation outside of the database? what
about validation when a document is updated in the database, how do you
assure the document is still valid? xdmp:validate, schema validation? other
options?

On Jan 14, 2014 7:28 PM, "Mary Holstege" <[email protected]>
wrote:


I think the problem here is you are using XSD 1.1 and relying on one of
its features.  MarkLogic currently doesn't support XSD 1.1.

Technically we ought to not even attempt the validation when you have
an xs:all extended by an xs:all, but in general MarkLogic doesn't do a
great job
of schema checking in that way; mostly just assuming the schemas are OK.

//Mary


On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:43:44 -0800, Lanz <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is the context :
> we use Marklogic 7.0-1.
> we have a schema database containing ours schemas, this db is referenced
> in
> our doc db as the schema db.
> These schemas (version 1.1) defined a base type and 2 extension types
> (ie :
> a basic publication as a base type and a 'summary' and an 'indicator' as
> extension types). The extensions types have their own elements in
> addition
> of the ones from the basic type. Some elements could be optional or
> mandatory, they are 'unordered' (using xs:all). All these schemas use the
> same namespace.
> Because the root element is the same for the 2 extension type ('work') we
> set the attribute 'schemalocation' in the 'work' root element to be sure
> ML
> uses the right schema during the validation.
> The documents have been validated against its schema in Oxygen without
> issue
>
>
> Here is the issue!
> When we try to validate a document before inserting it in Marklogic with
> xdmp:validate using neither strict", "lax", or "type" (with its own
> type),
> it failed.
> The error message mentions the right schema but does not take in account
> the optional elements.
>
> Please find the mentioned (simplified) schema, XML sample and error
> message
> here : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8422411
>
>
> Any help is welcome, many thanks
> Lanz


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