FWIW, code completion is available in gtkide.
balloon help or code completion have nothing to do with if there are in-line documentation in the distribution libraries. Вс, 24 фев 2013, Murray Eisenberg писал(а): > Definitely, a mouse action, or even an F1 or Ctrl-F1 or similar keyboard > shortcut would be highly desirable. Even better is that such an action gives > a short description AND a live link to the full documentation page. > > Compare the present J interface with that for a state-of-the-art programming > system: Mathematica Version 9. In the latter you have not only such a > shortcut key for short description plus link-to-help, but also the following: > > - as you begin to type a built-in name, by default a list of possible > completions pops up; > - if you just press Enter, you get the first of the list auto-completed; but > - if you type more to match uniquely an initial segment of another entry, > then press Enter, you get the corresponding name auto-completed; and > - through a mouse action you can see templates for various forms of the > chosen completion, select which template you want to use, and have it > automatically entered for you (so you then merely type in the specific > arguments. > > (You can turn off that default auto-completion behavior, which sometimes is > annoying, but then invoke auto-completion, as described above, for any > particular expression by a keyboard shortcut.) > > Having to search code source for documentation is so 20th century! Having to > imagine documentation when it's been stripped from source is positively > medieval. > > > On 24 Feb 2013 06:12:23 -0700, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > How about being able to park the cursor/mouse over a primitive or any name > > defined in the z locale and having a description of how to use it pop up? > > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I think stdlib is special in that it is loaded automatically > >> during booting. For cgi applications I certainly welcome the > >> current behavior. Will you accept if a separate documentation > >> file for stdlib be available somewhere? There is a joxygen > >> addon but I have no experience with it or the original oxygen > >> either. > >> > >> ??, 24 ??? 2013, Gilles Kirouac ?????(?): > >>> > >>> I am in full agreement with Martin's statement about > >>> the lost script documentation. What a disappointment > >>> when I couldn't find how to use some string verb. > >>> > >>> Think of the reaction of a young newcomer I am trying > >>> to get interested in J when I have to say "those scripts > >>> were documented, but they are not anymore". Think about > >>> how fast he turns away. > >>> > >>> I hope for a correction. > >>> > >>> ~ Gilles > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------- Original Message ----------- > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Sent: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 04:29:54 GMT > >>> Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] How access script documentation? > >>> > >>>>> Some previous scripts had been merged into stdlib. Even when > >>>>> scripts are available, most of them had been stripped all > >>>>> comments including information for scriptdoc. > >>>> > >>>> I think that this is a grave mistake. (The mutilation, > >>>> not necessarily the integration.) > >>>> > >>>> Firstly, like Murray, I am missing the documentation. Not just > >>>> for learning how a function is supposed to be used but also to find > >>>> a suitable function in first place. > >>>> > >>>> Secondly, we are often enough forced to dig into the library > >>>> functions when are not properly working. We *want* to help, but > >>>> having to that with a merged giant script bereft of sructure, layout, > >>>> and comments is like having insult added to injury. > >>>> > >>>>> You can browse source files from the web interface of the svn > >>>>> repositories or download a copy of them into your local harddisk. > >>>> > >>>> That whole shebang of having (a) "true" source scripts, (b) packages, > >>>> and (c) unpacked production scripts has always been needlessly > >>>> complex and over-the-top for my feeble mind. > > --- > Murray Eisenberg [email protected] > Mathematics & Statistics Dept. > Lederle Graduate Research Tower phone 413 549-1020 (H) > University of Massachusetts 413 545-2838 (W) > 710 North Pleasant Street fax 413 545-1801 > Amherst, MA 01003-9305 > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
